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Good exists - a Catholic comments
RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(August 19, 2023 at 9:46 am)no one Wrote: I can't be catholic. I am not attracted to little boys.

Nice one no one. 
Most abuse is perpetrated by family members or close family friends. 
Does that mean you can’t be a family member or friend.
Cheers Barry
PS Congrats on coming up with such a great comment after being the first person to comment on my post when you said “bullshit”. You’ve obviously been thinking deeply since then.
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(August 19, 2023 at 9:34 am)Barry Wrote:
(August 19, 2023 at 9:26 am)h4ym4n Wrote: You can’t see it, can you Barry?

You claim nothing can come from nothing. Am I wrong about that?


Nothing can come from nothing, except your god. Am I wrong about that?


Your godthing existed at one point with nothing else, right?

Then what did your god use to invent its first invention from nothing?




I’m betting you’ll continue to not answer so I’m declaring

Checkmate

Hi, sorry I dozed off watching the TV. I didn’t realise we are playing chess. BTW God invented chess. See Genesis 18:31,a. 
Answer: God can do anything. 
Cheers Barry
PS God invented sleep too.

God created child cancer too and you worship it


Still a coward and not answering the question

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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
I don't think you're going to find an argument that works Barry. There's only one successful argument for a god. Successful meaning that there's nothing obviously wrong with it. The main criticism of that successful argument, ironically, is that it's not convincing. Think about that. The very best logical argument that man has ever devised, in all of his time very much trying to devise a successful argument, is unconvincing. If the very best argument can't convince, then why would these bush league offerings in thread convince?

Were you even convinced by them? Was it because you don't know how the universe was created that you came to believe in christ, for example? Or, if you prefer, do you really think that the people here are just terrible motherfuckers who harbor secret god beliefs? Is that who you are, is that all that your christianity is?
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
G'Day Barry.

I can see you're busy replying to everyone, no worries.

So parsing things down to what I think would be the leading question of "How did the world begin", y'see it's something like this.

"When a Mommy planetesimal and a Daddy planetesimal grind themselves together in a very special way, you get a Planet."

You're possibly kind of right about the whole 'Nothing' thing. Then again, that's not what Physicists etc actually say.

'Nothing' is just a Human concept, like 'Infinity' and 'Zero'. Since, thanks to Einstein, we know energy can neither be created nor destroyed, potential 'Energy' in whatever form has always existed.

No, that's the name of the concept you put into the spot where you currently seem to have gaps in your knowledge/understanding of things.

I've just had a major radiological scan. The Doctors didn't find anything written on, in, around, next to or otherwise near my heart. Plus, other than the occasional 'Heart burn' and indigestion pretty sure most of my thoughts are generated by the roughly four pounds of toothpaste density of grey matter within my calcium box perched atop my spinal collum.

Cheers. [Image: great.gif]
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(August 19, 2023 at 6:20 am)Barry Wrote:
(August 19, 2023 at 5:02 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Then he lied and said :


Apparently you do tell people what they "know". Do all Catholics do their "mind reading" schtick ?
Barry, we're not that stupid. 
BTW, ... Roger Penrose, (Stephen Hawking's friend) wrote a book entitled Cycles of Time. 
https://www.google.com/search?q=penrose+...nt=gws-wiz
It won't mean much to you, as you have no background in science.
He is just a tad smarter then you. 
If you need to know where the universe came from, how about go get an education ?

Genesis says nothing at all about a "universe". The ancient desert knew nothing about a universe.
This is what they thought the earth looked like : https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=55...=777&dpr=1
In fact astronomers didn't even know what other galaxies were until the last century.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sci...e-universe

Hi Bball, you seem very angry. I made a general comment about humankind. I didn’t say anything about anyone in particular and their belief. There have been numerous erroneous comments about my beliefs on this forum, including comments about where I can stuff them. Why are some atheists so hostile? People have been believing in God since recorded history. Doesn’t mean we are right, but to get so angry and hostile about it  can’t be good for you. If God doesn’t exist, why bother bringing attention to God? Why have a forum of un/non/dis belief? It doesn’t seem a happy place.
Cheers Barry

It's just your interpretation. You're not worth getting angry over. You're the garden variety troll. 
If people are irritated, it's because the drivel you spout we've heard thousands of times before. 
You made a general comment about what all people believe. Then you lied about it. 
Now we get the old old "angry atheist" crap. 
If it's not happy enough for you, feel free to leave. 
What's not happy is your pedophile cult when yet another diocese goes bankrupt when they get sued and lose for all their pervert clergy. It seems to be your

You have nothing at all to offer anyone here. 
Not only are you not up to even Grade School level science, you are at a Sunday School 3rd Grade level of Religion and Philosophy.

It seems to be your MO that you totally ignore the points made when people attempt to interact with you.
You answer nothing. You're scandalously unprepared for this, and have nothing to offer.
Buh bye.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(August 19, 2023 at 9:55 am)h4ym4n Wrote:
(August 19, 2023 at 9:34 am)Barry Wrote: Hi, sorry I dozed off watching the TV. I didn’t realise we are playing chess. BTW God invented chess. See Genesis 18:31,a. 
Answer: God can do anything. 
Cheers Barry
PS God invented sleep too.

God created child cancer too and you worship it


Still a coward and not answering the question

Hi Hymn, 
I’ll be singing hymns in church later today. I’ll think of you. 
Sorry for being a “coward”, it’s scary being a Christian. Especially a Catholic. 
Nothing in our universe can be created out of nothing. Unless by God, who can do anything.
Yes, suffering is a challenging issue for Theists, not sure why you conclude i worship cancer. I know Catholics who go to Mass every week and more who have cancer, 
Cheers Barry
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(August 19, 2023 at 9:51 am)Barry Wrote:
(August 19, 2023 at 9:46 am)no one Wrote: I can't be catholic. I am not attracted to little boys.

Nice one no one. 
Most abuse is perpetrated by family members or close family friends. 
Does that mean you can’t be a family member or friend.
Cheers Barry
PS Congrats on coming up with such a great comment after being the first person to comment on my post when you said “bullshit”. You’ve obviously been thinking deeply since then.

What family member or family personal priest friend violated you Barry?

Priest can be close personal friends, right Barry?

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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(August 19, 2023 at 10:10 am)Barry Wrote:
(August 19, 2023 at 9:55 am)h4ym4n Wrote: God created child cancer too and you worship it


Still a coward and not answering the question

Hi Hymn, 
I’ll be singing hymns in church later today. I’ll think of you. 
Sorry for being a “coward”, it’s scary being a Christian. Especially a Catholic. 
Nothing in our universe can be created out of nothing. Unless by God, who can do anything.
Yes, suffering is a challenging issue for Theists, not sure why you conclude i worship cancer. I know Catholics who go to Mass every week and more who have cancer, 
Cheers Barry

So your answer is abracadabra. 

Why is being a xian scary. Don’t you have god watching your back?

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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(August 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Barry Wrote: Hi,
I’ve just joined this forum. 
I see a lot of discussion about religion and Jesus and being saved.  I think that in a forum for atheists the most important question is “Does God exist?”. Jesus Christ is irrelevant if he isn’t the Son of God. And all other religious faiths are meaningless if our world occurred by accident with no creator God. 

I really don't care what a religionist thinks I ought to be concerned about.

(August 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Barry Wrote: So how did the world begin? 

It coalesced from the leftovers of a dust cloud which also birthed the Sun and eight other planets.

(August 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Barry Wrote: My answer is that science proves nothing can be created from nothing in our material world, so the only explanation is that something external created the world.

You're clearly ignorant of quantum fluctuations, then.

(August 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Barry Wrote: And that is what we call God. The problem for humankind is that they don’t want to feel responsible to God, despite knowing in their hearts God exists. 
Cheers Barry

Aquinas's arguments have been recognized as crap for centuries. If you're willing to swallow arguments shot through with fallacy, that's nice. Keep it to yourself and please tell your priests to stop molesting innocent children. Your tithing makes you party to their crimes, in my opinion.

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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
(August 19, 2023 at 10:10 am)Barry Wrote:
(August 19, 2023 at 9:55 am)h4ym4n Wrote: God created child cancer too and you worship it


Still a coward and not answering the question

Hi Hymn, 
I’ll be singing hymns in church later today. I’ll think of you. 
Sorry for being a “coward”, it’s scary being a Christian. Especially a Catholic. 
Nothing in our universe can be created out of nothing. Unless by God, who can do anything.
Yes, suffering is a challenging issue for Theists, not sure why you conclude i worship cancer. I know Catholics who go to Mass every week and more who have cancer, 
Cheers Barry

Awww thanks


I’ll write a letter to Santa for you.

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