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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 15, 2011 at 8:24 pm
(April 15, 2011 at 8:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: [sarcasm] Yes you defintitely come across as a very informed person. [/sarcasm] Atheists never forced anyone to be stupid? You're right, they just killed them like the 50 million killed in the atheist-run Soviet Union. I am sure you were already aware of that though becuase you are sooooo informed lol.
P.S. I hope you don't get banned, your posts bring a smile to my face.
I'm so tired of this stupid frigging argument. The murders in "atheist-run" Soviet Union were politically driven. It was not because Stalin was an atheist. It was because he was a communist. That is in stark contrast to the wars and murders that have been perpetrated with Christianity as the sole reason for those murders. The fact that you are practically sneering at a kid who is obviously very intelligent is telling of how your religion gives you a false sense of superiority.
P.S. He won't get banned. His insult was indirect enough to fit within the forum rules.
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 15, 2011 at 8:26 pm
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(April 15, 2011 at 8:18 pm)Shell B Wrote: Unlike most Christians, atheists do not make atheism their life's work.
I hope you were being ironic since you posted that on a forum called atheistforums.org lol.
I am sorry, they are still Muppets.
Lol, oh yes because destroying churches and making atheism the state religion was only political and had nothing to do with atheism. I am sure killing Christians and Muslims for just being religious was also only political too. You failed to mention any instances where Christianity was the sole reason. Probably because you are smart enough to realize that unlike the religion of atheism, Christianity has a moral code one of the tenants being "thou shall not kill". So a "Christian" killing was an inconsistent Christian at best and probably not a believer at all testified to by their rejection of Christianity's moral code. Stalin was being a very good atheist though, murdering millions in his way and doing things his own way. He died the most powerful man on earth, yes a very good atheist.
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 15, 2011 at 8:34 pm
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(April 15, 2011 at 8:12 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Proof? Aww, bummer. Just another atheist spouting unsubstantiated claims.
Book burning and censorship? Oh you mean like in the very Christian Soviet Union? Lol.
Oh, yes. Christians and communist dictatorships have a shit load in common. That was the most astute comparison you have ever made. Shame you were being sarcastic or I would have thought you were starting to evolve.
Keep bringing up the Soviet Union and I am afraid I will have to give you a history lesson. Please present one bit of evidence that Stalin's motives were due to his atheism. Please tell me how his politics tied into his atheism and pretty, pretty please explain to me how his murders and Pol Pot's could have so much in common, if the only thing they had in common was communism.
(April 15, 2011 at 8:26 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I hope you were being ironic since you posted that on a forum called atheistforums.org lol.
I am sorry, they are still Muppets.
Oh, I didn't realize that forum usage was an indicator of a person's life work. You can lol all you want. You still make no sense.
Oh, are you still going to deny that a muppet is a puppet because you are obstinate? How droll.
(April 15, 2011 at 8:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Lol, oh yes because destroying churches and making atheism the state religion was only political and had nothing to do with atheism.
You know, you sound a lot more intelligent when you are being sarcastic. Yes, it was only political. If I wanted to be an evil dictator, the first thing I would do is strip people of their rights. Taking away religion is an awesome way to make people feel powerless.
(April 15, 2011 at 8:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I am sure killing Christians and Muslims for just being religious was also only political too.
You got it. Though, even if it was not, it was more about power than atheism. Oh, wait, that is still politics.
(April 15, 2011 at 8:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: You failed to mention any instances where Christianity was the sole reason.
The Witch Trials, The Werewolf Trials of Estonia, The Crusades (How many were there), The Inquisitions (I heard there were a few of those too). Would you like me to continue?
(April 15, 2011 at 8:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Probably because you are smart enough to realize that unlike the religion of atheism, Christianity has a moral code one of the tenants being "thou shall not kill".
Atheism is not a religion, but Satanism is.
(April 15, 2011 at 8:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: So a "Christian" killing was an inconsistent Christian at best and probably not a believer at all testified to by their rejection of Christianity's moral code.
How trite. The convenience of this overused, yet obviously numbwitted statement confounds me. By your standards, no Christian is a Christian. Have you ever been "covetous" of thy neighbor's things? Oh, you have? Guess you are not a Christian.
(April 15, 2011 at 8:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Stalin was being a very good atheist though, murdering millions in his way and doing things his own way. He died the most powerful man on earth, yes a very good atheist.
How is that being a good atheist? Is it written somewhere that atheists should spend their lives killing people and trying to be the most powerful person on Earth? No? Oh, you must be making shit up again.
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 16, 2011 at 6:20 am
(April 15, 2011 at 3:11 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I hope you know that I don't care. I post on here to find out what halfway informed atheists think, not you.
Since all the atheists here are actually quite well informed(especially about your sham religion)
I would suggest you start trolling elsewhere in your search for some "halfway informed atheists"
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 16, 2011 at 12:49 pm
waldorf Wrote:I hope you were being ironic since you posted that on a forum called atheistforums.org lol.
Yes, because this forum is Adrian's life work.
You see, we atheists cant do ANYTHING without the utmost ridicule of the believers. Never once have I questioned Christians making forums, but not for Waldorf's sake..to him, every last single itty bitty thing that atheists do is because of their atheism.
Walldork..atheism is NOT a religion no matter how much you keep trying to convince yourself it is.
..and we are NOT going to disappear. The opposite actually. Expect to see our numbers grow greatly in the next 3 decades. We are roughly around 15-18% of the population. in 30 years we will be around one third or more of the entire population of America.
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 18, 2011 at 10:18 pm
It’s not a matter of history, it’s a matter of logic. History can’t tell you someone’s motives, but logic can. Since you atheists love to use the Santa analogy I will play along with that one. I don’t believe in Santa, I am an A-stanta-ist. Now let’s say I become the leader of a country, and let’s also say that make I make “A-santa-ism” the official state doctrine or religion. Now let’s say I then go out and start burning down any mall that has a person playing Santa. Let’s also say that I round up all the children who believe in Santa and send them to camps, and execute any who refuse to go. I make such statements as the belief in Santa is holding our country back and we must rid our nation of it. After all this you would sit there and tell me that the atrocities I committed had nothing to do with my a-santa-ism? You have got to be kidding me.
My wife and her family moved here from Russia, and her grandparents had neighbors who were drug out in the street and shot by government officials just because they were Christian Orthodox. So don’t pretend for a second that you know what happened over there because you read some revisionist history book.
Just an indicator of yours.
It’s too bad that Stalin thought he was doing the people a favor by liberating them from Religion huh? You just make up history to make yourself feel better.
Apparently you know Stalin’s heart and mind better than his own daughter, it was all about religion according to her.
Yes please do continue, because you still have not named a single atrocity done solely in the name of Christianity.
Talk about overused. A Christian’s salvation is attested to by their works and fruit of the spirit. If you think someone disregarding all the teachings of Christ and Scripture is still a Christian then go ahead and be naïve, but definitions matter to me.
Actually atheism has no moral code written anywhere, that’s the problem. So you can’t tell Stalin that what he did was wrong, or that he should have done anything different. At least my religion has a moral code.
Lol, I hope this was sarcasm. I have not found one atheist on here who has decent knowledge of my faith.
You don’t think creating a forum called ATHEISTforums.org had anything to do with the creator’s atheism? That’s a good one lol. Actually you guys are only 6 percent of the US population (according to Gallop) and whether that grows or not is pretty irrelevant. Your religion scares me none.
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 18, 2011 at 10:31 pm
walldork Wrote:You don’t think creating a forum called ATHEISTforums.org had anything to do with the creator’s atheism? That’s a good one lol. Actually you guys are only 6 percent of the US population (according to Gallop) and whether that grows or not is pretty irrelevant. Your religion scares me none.
Yeah, thanks for pointing out exactly what I was trying to point out. I guess we atheist just cant make anything with the sign "ATHEIST" on it without theists rambling on and on and inventing conspiracy after conspiracy and ..well...thanks for helping me make my point.
We atheists were 1 or 2 percent ten years ago. Now we are around 6%. Ten years ago we non religious types were 10 to 15% of the population, now we are 18 to 22%
Do that math..
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 19, 2011 at 1:28 am
Quote:I hope you know that I don't care.
Does that mean you're a bare faced liar or have the self awareness of a shrub?
If were indifferent you wouldn't be here.
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 19, 2011 at 8:20 am
(April 18, 2011 at 10:18 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Actually atheism has no moral code written anywhere, that’s the problem. So you can’t tell Stalin that what he did was wrong, or that he should have done anything different. At least my religion has a moral code.
Funny that since you claim the complete opposite in your lame attempts to class atheism as a religion.
I.e Let's make shit up in order to support our insupportable argument.
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 19, 2011 at 8:15 pm
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As to what your original point was? Who knows. Though you are actually making one of my points, you guys totally are a religion. Here you are celebrating new converts just like a Christian evangelical church would. You even have figures and trend lines! Nice! I don't believe in Santa, but I could not tell you nor do I care whether the number of people who agree with me is going up or down because it's not a religion to me.
(April 19, 2011 at 1:28 am)padraic Wrote: If were indifferent you wouldn't be here.
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Actually you should have noticed I said that atheism has tried many times to develop moral codes and ethics but has never really decided upon one due to logical issues (they are going through the growing pains that all young religions do). So yes they are moral relativists but this just proves my point that no atheist could tell Stalin he shouldn't have had 60 million people murdered.
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