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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 12, 2011 at 7:58 pm
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I nearly fell for it;what's his name's comment about Dawkins is a strawman.
Plus I don't give a flying fuck about what Richard Dawkins says about anything outside of his discipline. The man is a clever debater and polemicist,but weak philosopher.
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 12, 2011 at 8:01 pm
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 12, 2011 at 8:53 pm
(April 12, 2011 at 2:27 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: On page 355 (off of google books) of "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins
"Nevertheless, it is clearly unjust to visit upon all pedophiles a vengeance appropriate to the tiny minority who are also murderers. All three of the boarding schools I attended employed teachers whose affection for small boys overstepped the bounds of propriety. That was indeed reprehensible. Nevertheless if, fifty years on, they had been hounded by vigilantes or lawyers as no better than child murderers, I should have felt obliged to come to their defense, even as the victim of one of them (an embarrassing but otherwise harmless experience)." He is speaking about his own experiences. He says he attended three boarding schools who all employed "pedophilic" teachers, and that he was a victim of one of them, yet the experience was more embarrassing than harmful, and he would come to their defense if they were hounded like child murderers.
How you can take what he wrote about his own experiences and think it applies to his general thinking about molestation is quite beyond me.
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 12, 2011 at 9:00 pm
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How is anyone reading what Dawkins wrote as anything but a comment on his own experience at the hands of one of his teachers? It's CLEARLY not how he views child molestation but a comment on his own personal experience "as the victim of one", which was " an embarrassing but other wise harmless experience".
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 12, 2011 at 9:08 pm
No, Waldorf you are clearly wrong and are reading the paragraph in the context that gives it the meaning you want it to have, a well rehearsed talent of the religious.
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April 12, 2011 at 9:09 pm
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April 12, 2011 at 9:18 pm
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http://richarddawkins.net/articles/118
Quote:Happily I was spared the misfortune of a Roman Catholic upbringing (Anglicanism is a significantly less noxious strain of the virus). Being fondled by the Latin master in the Squash Court was a disagreeable sensation for a nine-year-old, a mixture of embarrassment and skin-crawling revulsion, but it was certainly not in the same league as being led to believe that I, or someone I knew, might go to everlasting fire. As soon as I could wriggle off his knee, I ran to tell my friends and we had a good laugh, our fellowship enhanced by the shared experience of the same sad pedophile. I do not believe that I, or they, suffered lasting, or even temporary damage from this disagreeable physical abuse of power. Given the Latin Master's eventual suicide, maybe the damage was all on his side.
BOOOOOOOM!
There you go, he was clearly a victim and he viewed his experience as a "mixture of embarrassment and skin-crawling revulsion" then went away and had a laugh (an over all harmless experience).
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 12, 2011 at 9:20 pm
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RE: Oh, Thank you, Your Ass-Holiness....
April 12, 2011 at 9:29 pm
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Fucking hell you are dense. He never says child molestation and rape are funny. He says HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, which clearly wasn't anything more than getting touched up a bit didn't affect him personally and he found the experience to be embarrassing but otherwise harmless.
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