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RE: What (in your society) is a 'real man'?
September 10, 2023 at 3:28 am
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Stay at home dads are commonly perceived to be and perceive themselves to be...in some way, effeminate, and failing at their manly duties, yes.
When people ask me what I do irl and I tell them I'm a stay at home and homeschooling dad, that hangs in the air a bit, and you pretty much have to follow it up with "and a very small scale commercial producer". Then there are the smiles and the recognition and the identification as "one of them" essentially.
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RE: What (in your society) is a 'real man'?
September 10, 2023 at 4:52 am
(September 9, 2023 at 5:04 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: (September 8, 2023 at 1:00 pm)tackattack Wrote: Your assumption and mindset are that there is an either or dynamic going on, which is incorrect. You can be a male with 100% nurturer as a trait and that has zero bearing on me identifying them as a “real man”. As I stated nurturer was not part of my definition of “real man”. you can be both a nurturer and a protector but they are not the same thing.
But I can't be a zero protector and 100% nurturer and be a real man, yes? But I could be that and be a real woman.
Protection is integral part of nurture. One could not nurture very much without protecting.
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RE: What (in your society) is a 'real man'?
September 10, 2023 at 4:54 am
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Real men and real women are those don’t think their gender roles absolve them of the obligation to do what is required, even when gender roles say that should be done by the other gender.
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RE: What (in your society) is a 'real man'?
September 10, 2023 at 5:57 am
(September 10, 2023 at 4:54 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Real men and real women are those don’t think their gender roles absolve them of the obligation to do what is required, even when gender roles say that should be done by the other gender.
So a real man and real woman converge, I guess.
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RE: What (in your society) is a 'real man'?
September 10, 2023 at 5:57 am
What are the qualities of a real non-binary?
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RE: What (in your society) is a 'real man'?
September 10, 2023 at 6:00 am
(September 10, 2023 at 5:57 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: What are the qualities of a real non-binary?
I think non-binary self perception and willingness to do what is necessary irrespective of gender stereotype are not quite the same thing.
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RE: What (in your society) is a 'real man'?
September 10, 2023 at 6:13 am
Sorry, I wasn't connecting the two, just asking the bare question.
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RE: What (in your society) is a 'real man'?
September 10, 2023 at 3:13 pm
Okay, let's cut the crap and face the truth.
The real man is a Republican who smokes cigars (those fat brown ones that look like turds); he knows how to shoot a gun; believes in the god of the Bible; dates long-legged blonds who are virgins and does not have sex before marriage and even then it's only on few days in a month when she is infertile; he never eats pussy; only has male children; does not use pronouns; he hates gays; he knows how to throw the ball; only has male friends; thinks that Jews and other non-Christians don't have morality; he eats meat for every meal every day; he is tall; he does not live in some big city; he drives an SUV or a pickup truck; he uses the n-word because he is not woke; he wears boots; he never drinks Bud light.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: What (in your society) is a 'real man'?
September 10, 2023 at 3:23 pm
Is that a typical message heard in many parts of the US?
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RE: What (in your society) is a 'real man'?
September 10, 2023 at 6:58 pm
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(September 10, 2023 at 6:00 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: (September 10, 2023 at 5:57 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: What are the qualities of a real non-binary?
I think non-binary self perception and willingness to do what is necessary irrespective of gender stereotype are not quite the same thing.
Indeed...and I feel like it's no surprise to anyone that there isn't a "real non-binary" category in our culture? At least not yet.
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