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RE: Palestine
October 10, 2023 at 7:13 am
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(October 10, 2023 at 3:12 am)WinterHold Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 8:06 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: So then why are you complaining only about the Israelis? It's a war, and as you say, war is war. By your logic, Israel is entitled to raze Gaza and evict or kill its inhabitants. The rest of us can see the immorality of that.
There's your double-standard, complaining about Israeli war-crimes, ignoring Arab war-crimes. Fuckin' hypocrite.
Because 1 party is free (Israel), and the other party is imprisoned inside a concentration camp called "Gaza". Thump is accusing you of having double standards, and you reply by citing your two different standards. You didnt even try to object to Thumps claim that the Hamas is committing war crimes too. You just tried to excuse them. You gave the actual double standard Thump was accusing you to have. You actually made Thumps point: You ARE a Hyprocrite.
Being confined into an area like Gaza maybe justifies the Palestinians to fight back Israel (and its army), but it does not justify Hamas killing innocent people, by the way.
There also is not "one party" on the side of the Palestinians. The Hamas does not represent (all) Palestinians. The Hamas is a terror organization.
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RE: Palestine
October 10, 2023 at 7:15 am
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RE: Palestine
October 10, 2023 at 7:20 am
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(October 10, 2023 at 4:36 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 10, 2023 at 3:12 am)WinterHold Wrote: Because 1 party is free (Israel), and the other party is imprisoned inside a concentration camp called "Gaza".
If Gaza is truly a concentration camp, can you explain how so many Hamas butchers were able to get out and slaughter all those Israelis?
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It truly is a concentration camp. The worlds largest open air prison. No sense in pretending otherwise. There's actually a bunch of pretty good descriptions of how they busted out. It was well executed. Bulldozers and surprise.
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RE: Palestine
October 10, 2023 at 7:46 am
(October 10, 2023 at 3:12 am)WinterHold Wrote: Because 1 party is free (Israel), and the other party is imprisoned inside a concentration camp called "Gaza".
Murder is illegal in prisons, too.
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RE: Palestine
October 10, 2023 at 8:12 am
(October 10, 2023 at 7:09 am)Foxaèr Wrote: Both sides need to go on a Gandhi hunger strike to see who concedes to the other side first.
Which is more viable: a one-state Israel solution, or a two-state Israel + Palestine solution?
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RE: Palestine
October 10, 2023 at 8:15 am
(October 10, 2023 at 7:46 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 10, 2023 at 3:12 am)WinterHold Wrote: Because 1 party is free (Israel), and the other party is imprisoned inside a concentration camp called "Gaza".
Murder is illegal in prisons, too. Ghaza is not a KZ, rather a very big ghetto. I guess the Palestinians in there could be described as "ghetto dwellers", according to the standards of some forum users. The same users, i would like to ask if, applying the same standards, Hamas maybe recruited "ghetto Palestinians" to combat Israel?
(October 8, 2023 at 3:18 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But the allies in WW2 did use "Ghetto Jews" to combat Hitler, it's a historic fact: (October 8, 2023 at 2:26 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The only source I got my news from is reality.
Some Europeans came from the ghettos of Europe and became soldiers in the alliance against Hitler.
So their gift was to have a country in the desert called "Palestine".
It's not about "Jews". It's about "Ghetto dwellers" leading a country.
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October 10, 2023 at 8:16 am
Should merge this with OP's other thread.
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RE: Palestine
October 10, 2023 at 8:18 am
Depends on some pretty narrow metrics for viability. Both solutions look exactly like what we see now. The difference in the second being..at least ostensibly...fewer israeli incursions.
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RE: Palestine
October 10, 2023 at 8:31 am
(October 10, 2023 at 8:15 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Ghaza is not a KZ, rather a very big ghetto. I guess the Palestinians in there could be described as "ghetto dwellers", according to the standards of some forum users. The same users, i would like to ask if, applying the same standards, Hamas maybe recruited "ghetto Palestinians" to combat Israel?
My point is that murder is illegal no matter where one is. I'd argue it's immoral as well unless fighting for one's life.
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RE: Palestine
October 10, 2023 at 9:27 am
(October 10, 2023 at 8:31 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 10, 2023 at 8:15 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Ghaza is not a KZ, rather a very big ghetto. I guess the Palestinians in there could be described as "ghetto dwellers", according to the standards of some forum users. The same users, i would like to ask if, applying the same standards, Hamas maybe recruited "ghetto Palestinians" to combat Israel?
My point is that murder is illegal no matter where one is. I'd argue it's immoral as well unless fighting for one's life. Sorry, i should have quoted Winters original post.
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