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Atheist Evangelism
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#231
RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 4, 2023 at 1:09 pm
Mr. Dunning Kruger removed all doubt, within hours of opening its mouth.
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#232
RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 4, 2023 at 2:13 pm
(November 4, 2023 at 11:45 am)Ahriman Wrote: . I don't think

And it shows.
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 5, 2023 at 12:07 am
(November 3, 2023 at 12:44 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(November 3, 2023 at 1:03 am)snowtra cks Wrote: Here's an idea: There cannot have been 'nothing' from all eternity. Otherwise, nothing would now be in existence. From nothing comes nothing. Then you continue by saying, "Trust me, I know it wasn't God; it has to be unequivocally, energy and matter are eternal."

Nothingness seems to be a state of affairs that is necessarily brief. How long can it last, without time? And then there are virtual particles popping into existence all of the time, literally out of nothing.

Has your idea of God been around for eternity, or just since the beginning of time?
Virtual particles are an 'effect'.  Ref: Universal causation
Atheist Credo: An universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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#234
RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 5, 2023 at 1:22 am
(November 5, 2023 at 12:07 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(November 3, 2023 at 12:44 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Nothingness seems to be a state of affairs that is necessarily brief. How long can it last, without time? And then there are virtual particles popping into existence all of the time, literally out of nothing.

Has your idea of God been around for eternity, or just since the beginning of time?
Virtual particles are an 'effect'.  Ref: Universal causation

And stories in the Bible are fairytales, like the six-day creation.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#235
RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 5, 2023 at 9:12 am
(November 5, 2023 at 1:22 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: And stories in the Bible are fairytales, like the six-day creation.
Oh, please! God was having Union problems and had to reduce the work load on the fairies and imps that did the actual creation. And there were copyright issues as well. God didn't write the original "fair use" clause very carefully. (I know, I know, he blamed his secretary, Lucifer, for that faux pas. Got the boy demoted and sent to work in the boiler room.)
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#236
RE: Atheist Evangelism
November 6, 2023 at 6:36 pm
(November 5, 2023 at 12:07 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(November 3, 2023 at 12:44 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Nothingness seems to be a state of affairs that is necessarily brief. How long can it last, without time? And then there are virtual particles popping into existence all of the time, literally out of nothing.

Has your idea of God been around for eternity, or just since the beginning of time?
Virtual particles are an 'effect'.  Ref: Universal causation

Not even you believe in Universal Causation, you believe in that one Big Exception to it, don't you? It's just a fancy way of asserting 'yes it does too have a cause' if we find something that apparently does not have a cause. It was a fine axiom until we found it doesn't hold up at the quantum scale.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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