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RE: Democrat Conspiracy
July 18, 2024 at 6:16 am
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"Minorities did way better under Trump than under Biden. Check out the employment figures from those years."
It's your claim, it is for you to properly evidence that claim. What you've posted there is pure rhetoric. FWIW the universally accepted metric of growth and success is a countries GDP, I can give a quote, but I am not yet allowed to post links so no citations, though if anyone searches the text it will likely go straight to it, and I am quoting it verbatim:
"GDP is one of the main economic scorecards: Generally speaking, the faster it grows, the healthier the economy. As with many of the broader statistics, what may be more interesting is how similar the Trump and Biden economies look.
Quarterly growth during Trump’s first three years, up to the pandemic, and Biden’s term beginning in 2021, compounded at an almost identical rate that annualizes to around 2.7%. Excluding Biden’s first year, arguably still influenced by the pandemic, it was a slower 2.3%."
Employment
"One thing the Trump and Biden economies shared is a strong labor market. The jobless rate was 3.6% at the end of 2019, before the pandemic; it has gone as low as 3.4% under Biden and until May had been below 4% for more than two years."
"The U.S. economy is a big ship that’s hard to turn, but presidential decisions do matter. Biden ramped up antitrust enforcement, for example. Trump’s administration thought tax cuts would boost private investment, and economists feel it did at least in the short term. Biden, by contrast, has steered public investments to what are seen as strategic industries and infrastructure.
But counter to their positioning as polar opposites, they’ve both embraced big deficits, overseen historically low unemployment rates, imposed tariffs on Chinese goods, and seen stock markets hit record highs on their watch."
I am curious what metric and objective evidence you can offer to support your rhetoric above? Or it like the snappy slogan MAGA, it sounds impressive to the uniformed, is easy to reel off in a hurry, but is ultimately meaningless rhetoric?
(My apologies for botching the quote function, still feeling my way around the site)
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RE: Democrat Conspiracy
July 18, 2024 at 12:22 pm
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You forgot to mention the one overwhelming factor that has set Americans back while employed and that's super high inflation. Even working people are struggling as their income covers less and less. The inflation reduction act has me scratching my head as to how we were going to reduce inflation through more federal spending. This is a large part of economic health.
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RE: Democrat Conspiracy
July 18, 2024 at 12:30 pm
(July 18, 2024 at 12:22 pm)Lek Wrote: You forgot to mention the one overwhelming factor that has set Americans back while employed and that's super high inflation. Even working people are struggling as their income covers less and less. The inflation reduction act has me scratching my head as to how we were going to reduce inflation through more federal spending. This is a large part of economic health.
What will really help is giving wealthy billionaires tax cuts.
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RE: Democrat Conspiracy
July 18, 2024 at 12:44 pm
(July 17, 2024 at 9:18 pm)Lek Wrote: During the Trump administration, people were doing well and were hopeful. During the Biden administration people have developed a feeling of hopelessness. It's time for people to come together as fellow Americans, not as separate groups according to race, color, nationality, etc. All I've seen from Biden and the Dems is pitting one group against another. The country hasn't been this divided since the civil war. All this under the president who was supposed to bring us all together.
Maybe Republicans shouldn't make it a vocation to tell everyone how bad off they are under Biden, witn no note of facts.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/document...record-low
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RE: Democrat Conspiracy
July 18, 2024 at 12:49 pm
(July 18, 2024 at 12:44 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: (July 17, 2024 at 9:18 pm)Lek Wrote: During the Trump administration, people were doing well and were hopeful. During the Biden administration people have developed a feeling of hopelessness. It's time for people to come together as fellow Americans, not as separate groups according to race, color, nationality, etc. All I've seen from Biden and the Dems is pitting one group against another. The country hasn't been this divided since the civil war. All this under the president who was supposed to bring us all together.
Maybe Republicans shouldn't make it a vocation to tell everyone how bad off they are under Biden, witn no note of facts.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/document...record-low
Why? It's not as if having learned a lesson they will retain it.
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RE: Democrat Conspiracy
July 18, 2024 at 12:58 pm
(July 18, 2024 at 12:22 pm)Lek Wrote: You forgot to mention the one overwhelming factor that has set Americans back while employed and that's super high inflation. Even working people are struggling as their income covers less and less. The inflation reduction act has me scratching my head as to how we were going to reduce inflation through more federal spending. This is a large part of economic health.
The United States is doing better in regards to inflation than any other industrialized country. We're the envy of the world in that regard. I know that's small comfort to people paying higher prices, but it's a global phenomenon not caused by Biden but minimized under his administration better than in Britain, France, Japan, China, and especially the Russian Federation.
A large part of perception of economic health is perception. Guess which party is nothing but gloom and doom under Biden?
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RE: Democrat Conspiracy
July 18, 2024 at 1:08 pm
(July 18, 2024 at 12:22 pm)Lek Wrote: You forgot to mention the one overwhelming factor that has set Americans back while employed and that's super high inflation. Even working people are struggling as their income covers less and less. The inflation reduction act has me scratching my head as to how we were going to reduce inflation through more federal spending. This is a large part of economic health.
Yeah right, that's why you'll vote for the guy who left 6.3% unemployment rate, a net loss of 3 million jobs (incl 150k manufacturing jobs), a 3.4% reduction in economic growth and the highest murder rate in 25 years -- for economic reasons and totally not for racist reasons.
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RE: Democrat Conspiracy
July 18, 2024 at 1:22 pm
(July 18, 2024 at 12:22 pm)Lek Wrote: You forgot to mention the one overwhelming factor that has set Americans back while employed and that's super high inflation. Even working people are struggling as their income covers less and less. The inflation reduction act has me scratching my head as to how we were going to reduce inflation through more federal spending. This is a large part of economic health.
The recent inflation was caused by corporate greed. While it’s true that the Act didn’t do a lot to reduce inflation immediately, it was intended to slow the rate of inflation longer term, which it did.
Government spending, when properly focused, always increases economic activity -more jobs and higher wages tend to have a dampening effect on inflation.
Two years ago, US inflation peaked at 9.1%. It is currently at 3.1%. If you’re going to blame an administration for high inflation, you should credit them for low inflation.
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RE: Democrat Conspiracy
July 18, 2024 at 2:40 pm
(July 18, 2024 at 12:22 pm)Lek Wrote: You forgot to mention the one overwhelming factor that has set Americans back while employed and that's super high inflation. Even working people are struggling as their income covers less and less. The inflation reduction act has me scratching my head as to how we were going to reduce inflation through more federal spending. This is a large part of economic health.
That is addressed in the article I quoted, I can't post any links yet.
It also doesn't actually provide any evidence to support your claim here:
Quote:"Minorities did way better under Trump than under Biden. Check out the employment figures from those years."
The figures I sourced and quoted do not support that claim.
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RE: Democrat Conspiracy
July 18, 2024 at 2:58 pm
(July 17, 2024 at 9:18 pm)Lek Wrote: All I've seen from Biden and the Dems is pitting one group against another. At which point did you figure that one out, genius? When he called fallen soldiers "suckers" or when he called immigrants "vermin"?...nonono, wait, i got it: when he stated that there "are good people on both sides", right?
Rule #1 of quality trolling: Dont be lazy, dont be an idiot, be just borderline believable. Unfortunately, you arent even bright enough for one of those. What a complete embarrassment of your trade you are.
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