Posts: 1
Threads: 1
Joined: September 18, 2024
Reputation:
0
Your view on the allegory in Watership Down book?
September 18, 2024 at 1:49 pm
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2024 at 1:51 pm by KillerRabbit.)
The Council Rabbit seems like the most atheistic one. He has given up all hope and relies on false security in the hole. (Though atheist philosophy tends to rely on materialism interms of world building)
Then you have the SS Police rabbits which is Owslafa. They are more authoritarians like USSR, Nazis or whatever tyrrant you can think of.
Personally i think the whole story is origin story of Killer Rabbit from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. What do you think?
Overall the book deals about leadership roles, struggles and such... with bunnies
Posts: 46076
Threads: 538
Joined: July 24, 2013
Reputation:
109
RE: Your view on the allegory in Watership Down book?
September 18, 2024 at 2:14 pm
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2024 at 2:18 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
I think you’re the poster boy for the Sad Little Troll Society. And the origin of the Rabbit of Caerbannog dates from 1345.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Posts: 23036
Threads: 26
Joined: February 2, 2010
Reputation:
106
RE: Your view on the allegory in Watership Down book?
September 18, 2024 at 2:15 pm
(September 18, 2024 at 1:49 pm)KillerRabbit Wrote: The Council Rabbit seems like the most atheistic one. He has given up all hope and relies on false security in the hole. (Though atheist philosophy tends to rely on materialism interms of world building)
Then you have the SS Police rabbits which is Owslafa. They are more authoritarians like USSR, Nazis or whatever tyrrant you can think of.
Personally i think the whole story is origin story of Killer Rabbit from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. What do you think?
Overall the book deals about leadership roles, struggles and such... with bunnies
I never read it as an allegory about atheism or economic philosophy. I see it more thematically concerned with ecology and the incessant march of technology, and how that march impacts nature. Technology is seen as a harbinger of death and authoritarianism, while living in nature is held up as freedom. Fiver is definitely a medicine-man to his fellows.
Posts: 3416
Threads: 25
Joined: August 9, 2015
Reputation:
27
RE: Your view on the allegory in Watership Down book?
September 18, 2024 at 2:22 pm
Hi sock, Bye sock! *waves*
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
Conservative trigger warning.
Posts: 46076
Threads: 538
Joined: July 24, 2013
Reputation:
109
RE: Your view on the allegory in Watership Down book?
September 18, 2024 at 2:22 pm
(September 18, 2024 at 2:15 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (September 18, 2024 at 1:49 pm)KillerRabbit Wrote: The Council Rabbit seems like the most atheistic one. He has given up all hope and relies on false security in the hole. (Though atheist philosophy tends to rely on materialism interms of world building)
Then you have the SS Police rabbits which is Owslafa. They are more authoritarians like USSR, Nazis or whatever tyrrant you can think of.
Personally i think the whole story is origin story of Killer Rabbit from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. What do you think?
Overall the book deals about leadership roles, struggles and such... with bunnies
I never read it as an allegory about atheism or economic philosophy. I see it more thematically concerned with ecology and the incessant march of technology, and how that march impacts nature. Technology is seen as a harbinger of death and authoritarianism, while living in nature is held up as freedom. Fiver is definitely a medicine-man to his fellows.
Richard Adams says there’s no intended ‘allegory or parable or any kind of political myth. I simply wrote down a story I told to my little girls.’
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Posts: 23036
Threads: 26
Joined: February 2, 2010
Reputation:
106
RE: Your view on the allegory in Watership Down book?
September 18, 2024 at 2:26 pm
(September 18, 2024 at 2:22 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 18, 2024 at 2:15 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I never read it as an allegory about atheism or economic philosophy. I see it more thematically concerned with ecology and the incessant march of technology, and how that march impacts nature. Technology is seen as a harbinger of death and authoritarianism, while living in nature is held up as freedom. Fiver is definitely a medicine-man to his fellows.
Richard Adams says there’s no intended ‘allegory or parable or any kind of political myth. I simply wrote down a story I told to my little girls.’
Boru
Right. At bottom it's an adventure tale, a quest. Like many stories, themes can bubble up from underneath, even without the author having planned them.
Posts: 46076
Threads: 538
Joined: July 24, 2013
Reputation:
109
RE: Your view on the allegory in Watership Down book?
September 18, 2024 at 2:38 pm
(September 18, 2024 at 2:26 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (September 18, 2024 at 2:22 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Richard Adams says there’s no intended ‘allegory or parable or any kind of political myth. I simply wrote down a story I told to my little girls.’
Boru
Right. At bottom it's an adventure tale, a quest. Like many stories, themes can bubble up from underneath, even without the author having planned them.
Oh, no doubt at all. The value of a story primarily lies in what readers take away from it. For some readers, ‘Moby Dick’ is about the price of hubris and man’s eternal struggle to bend nature to his will. For others, it boils down to ‘an angry sperm whale will fuck you up.’
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Posts: 8272
Threads: 47
Joined: September 12, 2015
Reputation:
42
RE: Your view on the allegory in Watership Down book?
September 19, 2024 at 1:04 pm
(September 18, 2024 at 1:49 pm)KillerRabbit Wrote: The Council Rabbit seems like the most atheistic one. He has given up all hope and relies on false security in the hole. (Though atheist philosophy tends to rely on materialism interms of world building)
Then you have the SS Police rabbits which is Owslafa. They are more authoritarians like USSR, Nazis or whatever tyrrant you can think of.
Personally i think the whole story is origin story of Killer Rabbit from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. What do you think?
Overall the book deals about leadership roles, struggles and such... with bunnies
I know I'm responding to a dead account (although probably a sock), but I'd like to point out that both Nazi Germany and (post-1941) the USSR were christian countries with an officially sanctioned version of christianity.
Urbs Antiqua Fuit Studiisque Asperrima Belli
Home
Posts: 12133
Threads: 125
Joined: January 11, 2010
Reputation:
45
RE: Your view on the allegory in Watership Down book?
September 19, 2024 at 2:57 pm
The real origin of the Killer Rabbit:
And, yes, that’s an actual carving from the façade of Notre Dame de Paris, and I hope it survived the 2019 fire.
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
Posts: 46076
Threads: 538
Joined: July 24, 2013
Reputation:
109
RE: Your view on the allegory in Watership Down book?
September 19, 2024 at 3:02 pm
(September 19, 2024 at 2:57 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: The real origin of the Killer Rabbit:
And, yes, that’s an actual carving from the façade of Notre Dame de Paris, and I hope it survived the 2019 fire.
Golly, I wish I had known that 7 posts ago.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
|