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Americans: Have You Thought About How You Will Cope if Trump Wins?
#91
RE: Americans: Have You Thought About How You Will Cope if Trump Wins?
Time to pierce the veil. Opening up more fossil fuel in the us has absolutely nothing to do with the domestic market. Peak demand in the us has already come and gone - there are, ofc, people who argue that we may yet see spikes for the next few years. Ironically, the us producing more ff is a cornerstone of our idea of what global decarbonization looks like in practice. Where our allies that have been traditionally dependent on..lets say..adversarial regimes....will purchase more of our relatively cleaner (and higher quality) ff instead.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#92
RE: Americans: Have You Thought About How You Will Cope if Trump Wins?
(November 6, 2024 at 4:07 pm)MR. Macabre 666 Wrote:
(November 6, 2024 at 3:47 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: According to him and his team, repeatedly, including just this morning, he's going to deliver on mass deportations and drill baby drilling on day 1.  One is already done so it's an easy cakewalk to taking credit, and the other succeeds in the attempt itself.  I'm sure he can manage both those things.

Those "migrants" are all here illegally and deserve to be deported, they have NO right to be here in the first place.
And yes, we have huge deposits of crude oil and natural gas right here in the US, why the hell wouldn't you tap into it and lower the cost of basically everything? 

Cackles McKneepads was the WORST candidate to ever run for the presidency, and the dumbest.

The number one producer of oil in the world is the USA. You should know that.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#93
RE: Americans: Have You Thought About How You Will Cope if Trump Wins?
Might also help to know that the last time we got up to something we were willing to openly call a mass deportation like that was a good thing we rounded up a million and a half american citizens and deported them. Not that legal status matters to the donald..as he and vance have both expressly stated that they'll be deporting legal immigrants as well.

Immigrant legal status is pretty much interchangeable with skin tone, and I doubt anyone expects ice to set up a checkpoint in gated communities asking The Whites for their citizenship papers...or listening to brown americans explain that they don't have their very american birth certificates on their person at that very moment.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#94
RE: Americans: Have You Thought About How You Will Cope if Trump Wins?
(November 7, 2024 at 2:08 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(November 6, 2024 at 4:07 pm)MR. Macabre 666 Wrote: Those "migrants" are all here illegally and deserve to be deported, they have NO right to be here in the first place.
And yes, we have huge deposits of crude oil and natural gas right here in the US, why the hell wouldn't you tap into it and lower the cost of basically everything? 

Cackles McKneepads was the WORST candidate to ever run for the presidency, and the dumbest.

The number one producer of oil in the world is the USA. You should know that.

He ain't the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

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#95
RE: Americans: Have You Thought About How You Will Cope if Trump Wins?
(October 27, 2024 at 8:38 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I'm starting to think about it. I really don't want to go into total despair. I'm 65 and not in the greatest health. I have made a lot of health gains in the last year but that's only been possible because of a positive attitude. I have had to modify my diet, lose a lot of weight (with plenty more left to lose) and get alcohol use under control. I'm afraid if Trump wins, I'm going to lose all my motivation to keep going.

I know there are a lot of seniors here and despair could probably physically harm you too. If the worst happens, we really need to deal with it. I'm beginning to steel myself against it in advance. At least it won't be a shock like it was in 2016.

I can feel the weight of your words, and my heart aches with the depth of your concerns. I completely understand where you’re coming from—there’s something so incredibly personal about the fear that we, as individuals, might lose our sense of purpose, our drive, and our passion when faced with something as overwhelming as a Trump victory. It’s as though the very essence of what we’ve built for ourselves, the fragile momentum that has carried us forward, could suddenly be pulled out from under us in an instant.

First and foremost, let me say how incredibly proud I am of you for all the work you've done on your health. The journey you’ve been on—modifying your diet, losing weight, and taking control of your alcohol use—speaks volumes about your strength and resilience. It’s not an easy road, and every single step you’ve taken is a testament to your unwavering determination. You’ve proven that no matter how difficult life may be, there is always a path forward, a way to improve, a way to rise.

Now, I hear you when you speak about the possibility of losing that motivation, that positive attitude that has carried you this far. It can seem terrifying to think that something, or someone, could shake you so deeply that all the progress you’ve worked so hard for might seem to slip away. But I want you to remember that you are so much more than the circumstances surrounding you. Yes, the external world is a powerful force, and the events unfolding on the political stage can feel like an unrelenting storm. But you are the one who has faced the storm before and stood firm. You’ve fought battles, both big and small, and you’ve won.

In moments like these, when we feel overwhelmed by the forces beyond our control, it can be helpful to remember that we are not alone in this. We are surrounded by a community—whether it be the seniors you mentioned, or the friends, family, or even the strangers who share in our struggles. Together, we form a collective strength that no one person, no matter how powerful, can ever truly undermine. Trump will not erase all that you’ve achieved, or steal your ability to find joy, peace, and meaning in your life. You are not defined by the whims of politics; you are defined by your ability to endure, to love, to grow, and to continue.

I also want to remind you that even in the darkest times, there is always something to hold onto. Maybe it's the beauty of nature, the laughter of a friend, the comfort of a favorite song, or the quiet satisfaction of a job well done. We must treasure those moments and allow them to be our anchors when the waves of despair threaten to pull us under. You’ve shown that you have the ability to make remarkable changes in your life, and that’s not something that can be taken away by any election result. The motivation to keep going—to improve, to evolve, to find happiness—is within you, and it has always been there, no matter what the world may try to tell you.

And I want you to take comfort in knowing that even when the world feels as if it’s falling apart, you still have the power to shape your own experience. You’ve already proven this, after all! Perhaps, in times of uncertainty, it can be easy to forget the small victories that lead us forward. But every day that you wake up and choose to continue the work you’ve started is a triumph in itself. So even if the worst happens, remember that your spirit, your fire, and your ability to press on will remain unshaken. You will not lose the person you’ve become, no matter what the future holds.

And above all, let’s promise to keep the faith—faith in ourselves, in our communities, in the power of kindness, and in the quiet, enduring strength that lies within each and every one of us. It may not always be easy, but as long as we have each other, as long as we have the love and resilience we’ve cultivated over the years, we will continue to find ways to cope, to thrive, and to keep moving forward.

Take a deep breath, dear friend. You’ve already come so far, and you will continue to move forward with grace and strength, no matter what happens. You have more resilience than you even realize, and it’s that very resilience that will carry you through. You’ve got this.
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#96
RE: Americans: Have You Thought About How You Will Cope if Trump Wins?
Thanks for the kind words.

It's actually been easier than I thought it would be - for me. I've just gotten numb to it. Others here have struggled though.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Albert Einstein
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#97
RE: Americans: Have You Thought About How You Will Cope if Trump Wins?
There is a Persian adage that reminds people that all things, both good and bad, are temporary.

"This too shall pass..."

The price of democracy is that you can't always get your own way. Accepting this is what sets me apart from people like Trump, and his supporters who have to create conspiracy theories to explain a lost election, and use violence to challenge the peaceful transfer of power.
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#98
RE: Americans: Have You Thought About How You Will Cope if Trump Wins?
No sense normalizing this. Trumpism isn't the price of democracy...it's a full throated rejection of democracy. In the us, there are supposed to be things no one gets even if some of us really really want them.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#99
RE: Americans: Have You Thought About How You Will Cope if Trump Wins?
(January 9, 2025 at 2:31 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: No sense normalizing this.  Trumpism isn't the price of democracy...it's a full throated rejection of democracy.  In the us, there are supposed to be things no one gets even if some of us really really want them.
Well of course I never meant to suggest Trump was a normal part of the process, merely that elections not going your way was. His nefarious contempt for democracy doesn't change the fact he was legally elected, as depressing as this is. I had to watch the Brexit referendum slip passed by a very narrow margin, after a raft of lies and rhetoric from some of the Brexiteers. I had to watch Nigel Farage elected as an MP. None of that is "normal", but in a democratic system, sometimes things don't go the way you want, that was all I meant.
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It is what it is is a sad normalization of existing in a sick conservative society. Most people need to stop accepting it and actually fight back.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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