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RE: Ai music
February 8, 2026 at 6:41 am
(February 8, 2026 at 3:58 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: In fairness, that depends: how are we using it? The recent work Peter Jackson's done with the Beatles' old work proved it actually does have a place in music, even if it's just in the way of creating stems from old recordings and making half-century-old recordings sound new. But using it as a substitute for actual creative work is a nonstarter. Unless, of course, the AI just wrote some really ridiculous songs. Personally im using it for myself to make more good music. Theres certain songs I like but im bored of listening to them so im making more songs in that style and it's very good at that. I've made about 3 or 4 songs right now that if I heard a band playing them id want to see them live.
People are bound to be more critical of ai for copying and rehashing ideas but 99 percent of music is variations of already existing music. Whether it's accidental or on purpose.
Whether ai will make innovations on music or not is above what I understand about ai, i just know I love the music I'm making on it better than most new music im listening to.
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RE: Ai music
February 8, 2026 at 6:48 am
https://suno.com/s/xWqUIobmLPWTLjEZ
This is the first song I published using it, it might not be to everyone's taste but it's actually one of my favourite songs which is pretty scary.
I told it to make a song called red moon at dawn about zombies in the desert and gave it a few specifications.
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RE: Ai music
February 8, 2026 at 8:14 am
When it comes to so-called AI art, I like it as a quick joke, but when I try to listen to AI music, it sounds boring. Maybe one can admire the rhyme, but to me it just sounds "blah blah blah."
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RE: Ai music
February 8, 2026 at 8:36 am
(February 8, 2026 at 8:14 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: When it comes to so-called AI art, I like it as a quick joke, but when I try to listen to AI music, it sounds boring. Maybe one can admire the rhyme, but to me it just sounds "blah blah blah." How can you tell the difference between ai music and none ai music before someone tells you? Do you mean once you know it's ai the concept alone is enough to put you off?
In terms of the sound it's really the same as human music, and if youre talking about edm or some genre like that then it's literally the same thing.
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RE: Ai music
February 8, 2026 at 11:25 am
(February 8, 2026 at 5:47 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I reject the premise of music as product. Music is expression. Ball-bearings and washing machines are product.
At a stretch, AI music is an expression of our commercially-oriented society, which has made music into a product rather than an expression of someone's real emotions or thoughts. Once people realize that, they should be less interested.
So what if real music takes more time? A lot of worthwhile things do.
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RE: Ai music
February 8, 2026 at 12:31 pm
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(February 8, 2026 at 6:32 am)paulpablo Wrote: (February 7, 2026 at 7:45 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Anyone, person or computer, can put together pabulum. Art requires creativity, not rehash.
Most art is creatively rehashing things with subtle changes so I'd say its a combination.
Most "art" isn't really art precisely because it's rehash.
As a musician, I learned Hendrix and Bach, Willie Nelson and Miles Davis ... but I don't sound like any of them. "Creatively rehashing" is oxymoronic. What musicians regularly do is creatively recombining, which, like recombinant DNA, uses the same building blocks to produce entirely unique entities.
Take care to not confuse "rehash" with "recombination". They are distinctly not the same thing.
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RE: Ai music
February 8, 2026 at 1:49 pm
(February 8, 2026 at 12:31 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (February 8, 2026 at 6:32 am)paulpablo Wrote: Most art is creatively rehashing things with subtle changes so I'd say its a combination.
Most "art" isn't really art precisely because it's rehash.
As a musician, I learned Hendrix and Bach, Willie Nelson and Miles Davis ... but I don't sound like any of them. "Creatively rehashing" is oxymoronic. What musicians regularly do is creatively recombining, which, like recombinant DNA, uses the same building blocks to produce entirely unique entities.
Take care to not confuse "rehash" with "recombination". They are distinctly not the same thing.
From how you described it it sounds exactly like the same thing. Ai is doing exactly what you just said. It recombined sounds to create something unique.
I don't mean that subjectively, I mean you can argue about what is art because it's a vague term but ai definitely creates unique music. The waveform will be different, the lyrics will be different.
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RE: Ai music
February 8, 2026 at 2:06 pm
(February 8, 2026 at 1:49 pm)paulpablo Wrote: From how you described it it sounds exactly like the same thing. Ai is doing exactly what you just said. It recombined sounds to create something unique.
Apparently everything you've done with Lego blocks are exactly the same items. My point is going far above your head. If you change the colors of a paint-by-numbers kit, you still are not practicing creativity.
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RE: Ai music
February 8, 2026 at 3:40 pm
(February 8, 2026 at 2:06 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (February 8, 2026 at 1:49 pm)paulpablo Wrote: From how you described it it sounds exactly like the same thing. Ai is doing exactly what you just said. It recombined sounds to create something unique.
Apparently everything you've done with Lego blocks are exactly the same items. My point is going far above your head. If you change the colors of a paint-by-numbers kit, you still are not practicing creativity.
So what is the difference between recombining and rehashing when it comes to music.
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RE: Ai music
February 8, 2026 at 5:04 pm
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(February 8, 2026 at 3:40 pm)paulpablo Wrote: (February 8, 2026 at 2:06 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Apparently everything you've done with Lego blocks are exactly the same items. My point is going far above your head. If you change the colors of a paint-by-numbers kit, you still are not practicing creativity.
So what is the difference between recombining and rehashing when it comes to music.
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