Veganism - the other OTHER religion

[reverendjeremiah]

The fact is, we have evolved as omnivores and we require meat as well as vegetables.

They seem to have this idea that in nature animals live in some sort of happy co-existance where no really gets hurt.

One suspects they've watched "Bambi" one too many times.

It's an ethical choice, simple as that. Noone's denying that we're omnivores and that there's a great deal of cruelty in the wild, but that argument simply isn't comparing like with like.

We are animals, after all, and I personally think that we have a moral obligation to minimize the suffering done to our fellow creatures, no matter how lowly they are. As long as they suffer, I think it's wrong to turn a blind eye. I'm sure a philosopher like Shelly Kagan can be more eloquent about it, but it's a simple and fair ethical stance. Comparing it to a religion is rather insulting, especially when coherent arguments can be made by both sides, and I fucking hate it when people think veganism for moral reasons is some form of "extremism."

It is very much like a religion, as there is no grounds to ban eating meat, but that is what PETA wants to do. PETA wants to force veganism on all school children. PETA wants to force restaurants to follow PETA rules. PETA wants to jail people for eating meat, and charge meat producers with murder. PETA wants to ban animal testing for scientific advancements.

The last PETA member I met face to face watched me feed a live mouse to my friends snake. She cried and wished the snake was a vegetarian..thats how MENTAL these people have become. Its no longer a philosophy. Its a religion. Vegetarians have to take all of these extra suplements to make up for their loss for eating meat... because of their religious beliefs.

Bacon is good. Chicken is good. Steak is good. And just because you are too much of a wus to butcher your own meat doesnt mean that I am the bad guy either.

In fact a month ago I had the taste for Rabbit. Drove up to a guy that had a "rabbits for sale" sign. Told him I wanted to eat it, so he allowed me to kill my own rabbit on the spot. Broke the fuckers neck. Skinned him up and took him straight home and right into the fry vat. I put some hot wings sauce on him. It was excellent.

Feel free to die off if you want. Me? Im omnivorous and proud. Top of the food chain.

I'll keep being awesome while you seek out your support groups.

[ib.me.ub]

The fact is, we have evolved as omnivores and we require meat as well as vegetables.

They seem to have this idea that in nature animals live in some sort of happy co-existance where no really gets hurt.

One suspects they've watched "Bambi" one too many times.

It's an ethical choice, simple as that. Noone's denying that we're omnivores and that there's a great deal of cruelty in the wild, but that argument simply isn't comparing like with like.

We are animals, after all, and I personally think that we have a moral obligation to minimize the suffering done to our fellow creatures, no matter how lowly they are. As long as they suffer, I think it's wrong to turn a blind eye. I'm sure a philosopher like Shelly Kagan can be more eloquent about it, but it's a simple and fair ethical stance. Comparing it to a religion is rather insulting, especially when coherent arguments can be made by both sides, and I fucking hate it when people think veganism for moral reasons is some form of "extremism."

Good post.

btw, that avatar is crazy.

Good on ya rev, you just carry on with the delusion that eating meat make you awesome. What it does make you is a slave to your desires.

[reverendjeremiah]

[Watson]

"She's actin' like she's the queen...and we're the sorry people! ಠ_ಠ"

[reverendjeremiah]

[Watson]

He cracks me up too with just how serious he is about it..."I'm gonna tell you somethin'...bacon is good for me!"

[ib.me.ub]

He cracks me up too with just how serious he is about it..."I'm gonna tell you somethin'...bacon is good for me!"

Its good for your waist line.

[Interzone]

Good post.

btw, that avatar is crazy.

Good on ya rev, you just carry on with the delusion that eating meat make you awesome. What it does make you is a slave to your desires.

Well, I tried.

It is very much like a religion, as there is no grounds to ban eating meat, but that is what PETA wants to do. PETA wants to force veganism on all school children. PETA wants to force restaurants to follow PETA rules. PETA wants to jail people for eating meat, and charge meat producers with murder. PETA wants to ban animal testing for scientific advancements.

Your argument sounds incredibly similar to those of Christian nutbags who try to associate Hitler with atheism. Do you associate all vegans with PETA? But then, you're only being half-serious, methinks.

In fact a month ago I had the taste for Rabbit. Drove up to a guy that had a "rabbits for sale" sign. Told him I wanted to eat it, so he allowed me to kill my own rabbit on the spot. Broke the fuckers neck. Skinned him up and took him straight home and right into the fry vat. I put some hot wings sauce on him. It was excellent.

Good. I'm sure you'll enjoy this lovely piece.

[video=youtube][video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ki57eFs7XFo[/video]

[Interzone]

[Autumnlicious]

I did. I wondered idly what farms would do with excess stock...

I was more outraged by the sheer inefficiency at these operations. Seriously guys, can't you actually kill the calfs on first blow? Fact that you spattered brain matter implies force is not an issue. I suspect that those who were involved with the brain spattering blow may have decided to use less force in order to avoid a mess - that was in error.

Another complete blundering I observed was in killing that calf on the ground - he seriously let off his foot too early, prolonging the death of the creature. Killing it fast allows for one to move onto other things, as well as addressing concerns over cruel infliction of pain.

Utterly wasteful and careless.