Poor uneducated unintelligent aheists

[Eudaimonia]

[popeyespappy]

Since you claim such a strong statement. I'm a memberof a non denominational evangelical church. I'm very farmiliar with the doctine of the First Church of God (Anderson, IN) movement. Please cite proof where any cherry picking was done by me or anyone claiming either label. It's actually one of the first things I teach not to do in my adult and children classes.

Does your congregation teach parents to stone their disobedient children to death? If not you are cherry picking the Bible. Does your congregation teach parents to bear false testimony against their children? If not you are cherry picking the Bible.

Deuteronomy

21:18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
21:19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
21:20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21:21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

[Whirling Moat]

Peace....

Moat... You are on this board because you believe you have a strong case to make for a creator.. I've yet to see you make a strong argument...

I am consistently kneading..preparing...what you expect is forthcoming.

Because once you start with the goddidit shit then the church murders people who say "maybe not."

This is laughable Eudaimonia,..."Goddidit" is still in full regalia today..I don't see the remains of atheists smouldering upon yonder fields..

No, you do not choose to empower the poor and uneducated. You want to give them the tools to deal with being poor and uneducated. How is that empowering? That is merely ensuring they stay poor and uneducated. And saying a universal education bill would be neccessary is a strawman argument. We just need to fix the state of the existing education system and stop the attack on teacher's rights and benefits.

My statements are intended to wed the Blissful atheist to the consequences of what must be considered a wreckless form of activism. Atheists consider it noble to dislodge the faithful from their beliefs..They offer nothing more than dark revelation which is intended to dismount the faithful from their steed of fantsay..."Better to be miserable in truth than to enjoy the anesthetics of religious belief"..They have a right to know the truth..they say..Hear hear...However should not the IRS know the truth, and the mother in law in regards to quality of her meals, and the young child offering disjointed scribbles upon an imagined love note? "Here mommy, it says I love you so much" "No honey this doesn't say anything at all.."

Must the truth be known? Emphatically Yes...However the truth should rise like the Sun..Easy on the eyes which have not yet adjusted to its brilliance. People must have time to adjust...They must also have the opportunity to adjust...Which goes to my original point.

My point should be clear..I am not suggesting that people be left alone to gleefully meander in fantasy forevermore..I am saying that very clearly that until the condition which creates the need for the fantasy is addressed with justice and equity and the proper preparations are underway... the meandering must continue.

Is the atheist crowd prepared to take on this responsibility? Or are they content to keep shaking people out of slumber for the fun of it..

Seriously, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.. but I need you to stop cherry picking .. and focus on the salient responses to you..

There is no benefit which you could bestow upon me which I could not simply seize after wrestling you to the ground and taking it along with some of your wardrobe..I will settle for the doubt for now....

Whirling Moat

[Eudaimonia]

Because once you start with the goddidit shit then the church murders people who say "maybe not."

This is laughable Eudaimonia,..."Goddidit" is still in full regalia today..I don't see the remains of atheists smouldering upon yonder fields..

Had theists had their way .. you would see atheists on stakes...

My point should be clear..I am not suggesting that people be left alone to gleefully meander in fantasy forevermore..I am saying that very clearly that until the condition which creates the need for the fantasy is addressed with justice and equity and the proper preparations are underway...

So you support a slow rise to an atheist future... Okay... Well, I'm glad to see you're coming around.. We both agree on the method by which the public should be invited to reject theism..

There is no benefit which you could bestow upon me which I could not simply seize after wrestling you to the ground and taking it along with some of your wardrobe..I will settle for the doubt for now....

So you're a rapist... ?

[Faith No More]

My statements are intended to wed the Blissful atheist to the consequences of what must be considered a wreckless form of activism. Atheists consider it noble to dislodge the faithful from their beliefs..They offer nothing more than dark revelation which is intended to dismount the faithful from their steed of fantsay..."Better to be miserable in truth than to enjoy the anesthetics of religious belief"..They have a right to know the truth..they say..Hear hear...However should not the IRS know the truth, and the mother in law in regards to quality of her meals, and the young child offering disjointed scribbles upon an imagined love note? "Here mommy, it says I love you so much" "No honey this doesn't say anything at all.."

There is nothing wreckless about trying to further the human race beyond its delusions it uses to keep itself happy. Once society realizes happiness and meaning do not have to stem from religion we can find true purpose in life. As long as religion persists, people will see atheism as a depressing world view and not the abillity to determine one's own purpose that it truly is.

Must the truth be known? Emphatically Yes...However the truth should rise like the Sun..Easy on the eyes which have not yet adjusted to its brilliance. People must have time to adjust...They must also have the opportunity to adjust...Which goes to my original point.

The transition would no doubt be difficult and people would need time, but that is no reason not to undertake the task.

My point should be clear..I am not suggesting that people be left alone to gleefully meander in fantasy forever more..I am saying that very clearly that until the condition which creates the need for the fantasy is addressed with justice and equity and the proper preparations are underway... the meandering must continue.

Is the atheist crowd prepared to take on this responsibility? Or are they content to keep shaking people out of slumber for the fun of it..

No one wants to rid the world of religion just for the fun of it. Atheists see the human race as an ever progressing species and religion as the largest obsticle for such progress. I agree that the core issues of why religion is needed are what truly need to be addressed and teaching people they don't need to use religion as a crutch is the first step.

[HeyItsZeus]

Please... I beg of you! This is an atheist forum!

[tackattack]

[popeyespappy]

[Doubting Thomas]

OK, if you're not cherry picking from the bible, why don't you sell everything you own and give the money to the poor like Jesus said to? Do you have locks on the doors of your house? If so, why? Jesus said to give to all who ask of you, and don't ask for repayment in return. If someone steals your cloak, offer him your shirt as well. Putting locks on your doors seems to go against what Jesus taught, since he was pretty clear about not accumulating wealth and letting people take things from you.

If you are a true Christian and don't cherry pick from the bible, then give me $100. You can PM me for my address.

[djrams80]

OK, if you're not cherry picking from the bible, why don't you sell everything you own and give the money to the poor like Jesus said to? Do you have locks on the doors of your house? If so, why? Jesus said to give to all who ask of you, and don't ask for repayment in return. If someone steals your cloak, offer him your shirt as well. Putting locks on your doors seems to go against what Jesus taught, since he was pretty clear about not accumulating wealth and letting people take things from you.

If you are a true Christian and don't cherry pick from the bible, then give me $100. You can PM me for my address.

Why stop at $100? I'm asking for $1000.