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RE: Stephen Hawking Nails It
May 16, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Hawking, if anyone, could be a religious nutcase considering his disease (ALS). Most patients with this diagnosis die within 3 years, he just keeps on kicking. Hallelujah, anyone? No, he's still rational and benefiting mankind. Kudos to him!
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Stephen Hawking Nails It
May 16, 2011 at 3:39 pm
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(May 16, 2011 at 12:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Let the whining from the holier-than-thou commence!
Already underway. Just read the comments below the article.
(May 16, 2011 at 3:37 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Hawking, if anyone, could be a religious nutcase considering his disease (ALS). Most patients with this diagnosis die within 3 years, he just keeps on kicking. Hallelujah, anyone? No, he's still rational and benefiting mankind. Kudos to him!
Well, if God did intervene, I'd thank him for keeping a mind like his around for as long as he's been here.
A better miracle would have been to heal him completely. ...and wipe ALS and other debilitating diseases out of existence. Let everyone die of sudden strokes and heart attacks. I'm fine with mortality. It's the slow, agonizing death over years or decades that I'm afraid of.
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RE: Stephen Hawking Nails It
May 16, 2011 at 5:20 pm
(May 16, 2011 at 12:14 pm)JohnDG Wrote: Well I hope the smartest man in the world presently, can convince some thiest their wrong.
Well, OK, I'll give it a try, but I'm not promising you anything. 
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RE: Stephen Hawking Nails It
May 16, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Peace....
Hawkins is great...
Now let me ask a question, should we accept that there is nothing after death because Stephen Hawkins says so?
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RE: Stephen Hawking Nails It
May 16, 2011 at 5:50 pm
(May 16, 2011 at 5:47 pm)Whirling Moat Wrote: Peace....
Hawkins is great...
Now let me ask a question, should we accept that there is nothing after death because Stephen Hawkins says so?
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No, obviously not. We should work these things out for ourselves after carefully and rationally considering all the evidence.
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RE: Stephen Hawking Nails It
May 16, 2011 at 6:07 pm
(May 16, 2011 at 5:47 pm)Whirling Moat Wrote: Now let me ask a question, should we accept that there is nothing after death because Stephen Hawkins says so?
No, I accepted that there was nothing after death long before Mr. Hawking said so.
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RE: Stephen Hawking Nails It
May 16, 2011 at 6:08 pm
(May 16, 2011 at 12:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/863408-steph...f-the-dark
Quote:Professor Stephen Hawking has dismissed heaven and the afterlife as a 'fairy story for people afraid of the dark'.
Let the whining from the holier-than-thou commence!
I figured I would have to check Min first before I made a mistake of a double post.
I wonder how the fundies are going to claim him now?
"He says there is no god, but just wait for his death bed confession!"
Yeah..always a death bed confession with the fundies...wonder how amused they would be if I made up stories about Christ, or Martin Luther, or some of the Popes having deathbed conversions to Atheism?
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RE: Stephen Hawking Nails It
May 16, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Funny how religious people jump on the band wagon of appealing to einstiens authority to back up their claims of god, but when another genius with a different name disagrees with their position they instantly start objecting.
Haha the irony.
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RE: Stephen Hawking Nails It
May 16, 2011 at 6:13 pm
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(May 16, 2011 at 12:19 pm)Rayaan Wrote: If Stephen Hawking said that, then it HAS to be right without a doubt. 
If I had $100,000 and I was willing to bet on something. If my choices were to take advice from one of your imams or advice from Hawkings...you better believe Im putting my money on the color and number he picks.
(May 16, 2011 at 12:19 pm)Eudaimonia Wrote: If he's using reason or logic.. I sincerely doubt most theists will be swayed.. I maintain that it is folly to try to reason with someone who's decision is not based on reason.. 
It's like trying to convince a starving person not to eat unhealthy food until it is cooked.. The logic, danger etc.. are irrelevant. because the motivation is not based in logic..
I am interested in what he has to say though..
Thats why I prefer to use emotional arguments around them... that is what they are used to, and that is what they accept.
Hard core logic were someone has to seperate their wants and needs and fears and feelings is NOT something most fundies like, therefore they scorn it.
Exaplining to them how their Jesus sits on his all powerful hands while he watches a little child get raped and murdered, while she calls out for Jesus to help..and he does NOTHING...is quite effective in giving them a touch of the doubt.
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RE: Stephen Hawking Nails It
May 16, 2011 at 6:25 pm
(May 16, 2011 at 5:47 pm)Whirling Moat Wrote: Now let me ask a question, should we accept that there is nothing after death because Stephen Hawkins says so? Should we accept there is an afterlife because the bible says so? I'm sorry but I'll listen to Stephen Hawking first.
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