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June 2, 2011 at 3:38 pm
@Dan: There might be smart theists out there (highly unlikely though), and everyone who is willing to challenge atheists's way of thinking is welcome here. Easy practice targets, you know.. 
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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June 2, 2011 at 5:07 pm
You guys are funny. You rush into puting the boxers gloves on when I didn't even come to fight. But ultimately I find your reactions interesting. Look, I believe that its good to have good intentions and respect atleast for beliefs that don't teach that you are evil just because you are non believer. Yes I do read a lot of different books but ultimately I make up my own mind. As for evidence, you have to have faith and be a seeker and maybe you get it and maybe you don't. In my case I don't feel like going into some arguments now and there are experiences such in my case I don't want to go into. Anyway, you can take your gloves of becuse I am not interested in fighting. Thanks.
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June 2, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Oh dear Pel, I myself am not interested in fighting, but I suggest that YOU keep your glows on, when Minimalist comes your way..
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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June 2, 2011 at 5:21 pm
(June 2, 2011 at 5:07 pm)Pel Wrote: You guys are funny. You rush into puting the boxers gloves on when I didn't even come to fight. But ultimately I find your reactions interesting. Look, I believe that its good to have good intentions and respect atleast for beliefs that don't teach that you are evil just because you are non believer. Yes I do read a lot of different books but ultimately I make up my own mind. As for evidence, you have to have faith and be a seeker and maybe you get it and maybe you don't. In my case I don't feel like going into some arguments now and there are experiences such in my case I don't want to go into. Anyway, you can take your gloves of becuse I am not interested in fighting. Thanks.
I think in your opening post you said you use reason(apologies if i read incorrectly).......... clearly not. Faith is not reason. Faith does not answer questions, it just stabs wildly at an answer you invariably want to hear.
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June 2, 2011 at 5:34 pm
(June 2, 2011 at 5:07 pm)Pel Wrote: You guys are funny. You rush into puting the boxers gloves on when I didn't even come to fight. But ultimately I find your reactions interesting. Look, I believe that its good to have good intentions and respect atleast for beliefs that don't teach that you are evil just because you are non believer. Yes I do read a lot of different books but ultimately I make up my own mind. As for evidence, you have to have faith and be a seeker and maybe you get it and maybe you don't. In my case I don't feel like going into some arguments now and there are experiences such in my case I don't want to go into. Anyway, you can take your gloves of becuse I am not interested in fighting. Thanks.
I remember a bit from you before, the 'undecided' guy... welcome back. As to the boxers gloves, all I have to say is that you received a few friendly ribbings so far...
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June 2, 2011 at 5:39 pm
(June 2, 2011 at 5:07 pm)Pel Wrote: You guys are funny. You rush into puting the boxers gloves on when I didn't even come to fight. But ultimately I find your reactions interesting. Look, I believe that its good to have good intentions and respect atleast for beliefs that don't teach that you are evil just because you are non believer. Yes I do read a lot of different books but ultimately I make up my own mind. As for evidence, you have to have faith and be a seeker and maybe you get it and maybe you don't. In my case I don't feel like going into some arguments now and there are experiences such in my case I don't want to go into. Anyway, you can take your gloves of becuse I am not interested in fighting. Thanks.
Sorry if it looked like a fight, Pel. I was genuinely wondering why theists join into these kinds of forums. Wanna talk about boxing gloves, just wait until one of us atheists tries expressing a sincere opinion on a Christian forum...watch how fast we get banned. That's what happened to me during my deconversion. Asked a *few* too many hard questions and BOOM....no more Schaffiro on Christianity.com.
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June 2, 2011 at 5:54 pm
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(June 2, 2011 at 5:07 pm)Pel Wrote: You guys are funny. You rush into puting the boxers gloves on when I didn't even come to fight. But ultimately I find your reactions interesting. Look, I believe that its good to have good intentions and respect atleast for beliefs that don't teach that you are evil just because you are non believer. Yes I do read a lot of different books but ultimately I make up my own mind. As for evidence, you have to have faith and be a seeker and maybe you get it and maybe you don't. In my case I don't feel like going into some arguments now and there are experiences such in my case I don't want to go into. Anyway, you can take your gloves of becuse I am not interested in fighting. Thanks.
I didn't put on any gloves at all... infact I reminded you guys of the pre-fight doughnut 
I'm possibly your best friend here... the mighty defender of theists when no atheist can be bothered 
I'm a lover. I'm a fighter. I'm a lover who has to fight to be loved. 
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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June 2, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Quote:You guys are funny. You rush into puting the boxers gloves on when I didn't even come to fight.
I didn't challenge you to a fight. I just asked if you had any evidence.
Don't feel bad if you don't.
None of the others do.
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June 2, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Okay, thanks for a much wormer welcome! I am an old member anyway. I am sorry to hear that christians are mistreating you on their forums( they must think that they are scoring points with Jesus that way).
I will say that I believe that if I was to mistreat atheists or a deist(wich is a part of what I am) is the same. I don't think that because someone is a non believer that I can mistreat him and not acumulate any bad "forune" with God.
I believe that if I was to do harm to atheists that I would be responsible the same for if I was to do it to a believer of any faith. Same I think of you mistreating others(in case you do), you will not get anything good out of it.
I kind of believe in God and Karma so to say. I believe that I have seen evidence of cause effect in my life(sorry but I wont go into the details) and one thing I learned is that you can't do bad to who you might think are bad people and not feel the effects of God's displeasure.
So, now you know that I hold no animosity towards you and that it is against my personal beliefs to mistreat you. I don't think any of you are bad, but I do think that you are mising out on awe that I have felt at times. I believe that faith is a wonderful thing.
Anyway peace and again thank you for your welcome!
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June 2, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Quote:Okay, thanks for a much wormer welcome!
Perhaps that's meant to be "warmer" welcome. What you've got there conveys a whole different message!
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