4 Step Proof for God

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The New 4 Step Proof for God of the Bible

Infinite Regress is Impossible

1. We observe trillions and trillions of cause and effects in nature, and no hard evidence something comes from nothing, which is an overwhelming preponderance of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. If there was an infinite regress you would have happened already having had an eternity do so. And you would never have existed because the past would continue to go on for eternity never reaching this point. As you can see, infinite regress in all its varieties (e.g. cycles, mutiverses) is inherently contradictory and therefore, false.

Something Can't Come From Nothing

2. Something can't come from nothing (non-existence) either, because that which does not exist can't cause anything. Nothing always leaves nothing from nothing. Energy can be neither created nor destroyed. It can only change forms. In any process in an isolated system, the total energy remains the same. Since that which does not exist has no energy, it cannot produce a singularity for the universe. Many times I have heard atheists say, "The properties of the universe are different from the whole, so the composition doesn't abide in cause and effect when it was brought into being." Of course, this is doublespeak because for something to be "brought into being" requires a cause.

A Mind is Needed to Create a Mind

3. Since nature can't always have existed nor start up from nothing, there must exist that which is outside of nature, that is, outside of time and space which always existed. This is whom we call the uncreated Creator. If you want to compare an always existing timeless singularity to the uncreated Creator, simply observe what we know that that which doesn't have a mind, will, emotion, conscience, intuition, or self-consciousness can't produce that which does. The lesser can never produce the greater. There has not even been enough interatomic interactions in the history of the universe to be able to do so. If you claim time is needed to bring about this universe from a singularity but the singularity has no time then this universe would never have existed if a causeless singularity existed.

The Resurrection Proves Jesus is God

4. Now that we know the uncreated Creator exists, we can compare. A God who is accessible and personal is better than one that is not. Only in Christianity do we find God enters His creation and dies for the sins of the world and proves He is our Creator by resurrecting Himself from the dead which can only occur supernaturally. Since almost all skeptical scholars concede for good reasons the disciples truly believed they saw Jesus alive from the dead in various group settings and there are no naturalistic explanations that can account for the origin of the disciples' beliefs (having exhausted them all), we should submit ourselves to this evidence, because if a person doesn't, they will surely go to Hell according to Jesus our Creator.

[BloodyHeretic]

Have you the slightest idea what infinite regress is about? By the way, read the rules, no preaching fukka!!

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Have you the slightest idea what infinite regress is about? By the way, read the rules, no preaching fukka!!

Do you?

Is it right to censor a faith that has evidence and yet exalt and preach your own that has no evidence and has been proven false?

It is unethical to have a double standard.

[DaveD]

Have you the slightest idea what infinite regress is about? By the way, read the rules, no preaching fukka!!

Do you?

Is it right to censor a faith that has evidence and yet exalt and preach your own that has no evidence and has been proven false?

It is unethical to have a double standard.

You appear to be suffering from the added delusion, besides your religion, that this is a public space where you are entitled to exercise free speech in order to preach your beliefs.
It is not. You and I are both guests here, so any rules the forum staff impose, and which you agreed to upon joining, do not amount to censorship, so stop whining (and preaching.)

[Faith No More]

Wow, the Christian learned to copy and paste from here. More proof that Christians can't seem to think for themselves.

[BloodyHeretic]

Have you the slightest idea what infinite regress is about? By the way, read the rules, no preaching fukka!!

Do you?

Is it right to censor a faith that has evidence and yet exalt and preach your own that has no evidence and has been proven false?

It is unethical to have a double standard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_regress
Read that first.
I don't preach. My views have not been proven false, and I haven't expressed them to you yet, so how would you know?
Fuck off back to fairyland moron.

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moron.

I am assuming you are an atheist therefore you are a moron since the evidence is against your faith and you can't overturn the evidence for God and evidence for Jesus being God.

[Faith No More]

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Atheism is arrogant and ignorant for obviously something can't come from nothing and infinite regress is impossible.

[BloodyHeretic]

Atheism is arrogant and ignorant for obviously something can't come from nothing and infinite regress is impossible.

Read the article about infinite regress. You have no idea what it is. Until you read it, shut the fuck up.