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RE: Are you born agnostic or atheist?
June 27, 2011 at 9:30 pm
It of course depends on what you mean by "agnostic" and what you mean by "atheist". A baby has no belief in God, since it does not have the mental capacity to hold beliefs yet. It is therefore as much an atheist as a rock. The same goes for being born agnostic, only I'd hold that agnosticism is a positive belief, whilst atheism is more of a lack or "passive" non-belief.
In simple terms, it is not possible for a baby to hold opinions on agnosticism, whilst it is possible for a baby to lack belief in a God.
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RE: Are you born agnostic or atheist?
June 27, 2011 at 9:37 pm
You guys need to go to Pern.
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RE: Are you born agnostic or atheist?
June 27, 2011 at 9:46 pm
You are born an atheist. You lack (a-) belief in God (-theist). A baby, or someone who has not been taught anything about Gods are atheists. I doubt many would come up with the concept on their own.
Agnostic is one who does not know. Babies are agnostic about the existence of God, just as they are agnostic about the existence of orbital mechanics. They are from a position of ignorance, until indoctrinated.
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RE: Are you born agnostic or atheist?
June 27, 2011 at 10:05 pm
It'd be incredibly interesting to see what kids would be like in this regard if they were raised with no religious claptrap around them, and, since no discussion of atheism would then be necessary, their development would speak volumes.
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RE: Are you born agnostic or atheist?
June 28, 2011 at 1:07 am
Here is the definition of agnostic from dictionary.com
Quote:1.a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as god, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
2.a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study.
Here is the definition from thefreedictionary.com
Quote:1. a. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
b. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
2. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.
Here is the definition from merriam-webster.com
Quote:1. a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2. a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics>
If one takes into consideration these definitions, then a person cannot be born an agnostic, because a prerequisite for each of these definitions is that some thought has been put into the subject. Personally, I think the better definition for agnostic is without knowledge, but this is some food for thought.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell