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RE: Muslim Child Abuse
July 7, 2011 at 10:14 am
(July 7, 2011 at 3:29 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: (July 7, 2011 at 3:01 am)Epimethean Wrote: Organized religion is for those who dislike reality. Seems they tend to take that dislike out on the rest of the world.
It is also for people who like to see reality as ordered, structured, sensible in general.
That doesn't change a thing about my post.
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RE: Muslim Child Abuse
July 7, 2011 at 11:55 am
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2011 at 11:59 am by Judas BentHer.)
(July 7, 2011 at 2:51 am)FaithNoMore Wrote: (July 6, 2011 at 7:07 pm)Judas BentHer Wrote: So don't let Koran verses claiming atheists are going to hell tick you off.
I couldn't care less what Muslims think of atheists, it's the stupid shit they do in the name of their religion, i.e. suicide bombing, stoning women, that piss me off.
Personally I could care less what attrocities Muslims commit against their own fellow Muslims within the borders of Muslim countries. It's tradition. It's Islam. It's terror religion. Not freedom of religion.
What I object to is when ultra-right wing conservatives immigrate to free countries and think they can practice their backwards unevolved violent terrorism in the name of their bloody faith, exploiting the cliche panderers conceive and think to implement; multiculturalism. And as such enable the stupid shit because "cultural diversity" is paramount and politically correct, while common human decency is elective when it comes to certain Muslims.
Like when the Archbishop of Canterbury went on record some years ago and said that Sharia Law was inevitable in Britain. Sharia Law applies only amid Muslims and yet it's related to that stupid shit that we've been talking about. Of course, he later apologized for daring to speak to what Muslim panderers and activists were already fighting to interject into Britian's society.
It's a damable lie that Islam is a religion of peace. When Imam's say it is not a religion of peace, I believe them rather than the panderers and the PC suck ups who insist headlines even in America that prove otherwise, as a father is to stand trial for murdering his daughter in the name of honor killing according to the tenets of Islam, as but one example amid many, are "not Islam". Those who say that aren't Muslim.
When those who are Muslim go on record and say they, being raised Muslim, have never heard of a differentiation in their faith between "radical Islam" and "Moderate Islam", because Islam is Islam I believe the Muslim who knows what they're talking about.
Of course not all Muslims are violent scum. However, it's suicide to swallow the lie that Islam is not populated by violent scum and their enablers who excuse violent depraved acts by claiming those are not Islam. When anyone can read the Koran and learn otherwise. Because it sure isn't peace! And it for damn sure can never be tolerated in the name of multiculturalism, when Islam isn't about tolerance! As the name forewarns; Islam means submission. And that's not with exclusive regard to the Muslim, but instead is a forewarning to the whole world.
The histories of Islam are proof of that. It is a lie that Islam is a religion of peace. However, it is a great subterfuge for those who pander to Muslims to argue that it is. Just pay no attention to the clit's that are excised, the heads that roll, the stones that are thrown and the blood that flows. That's all high signs of peace! Not Islam! *rolls eyes*
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RE: Muslim Child Abuse
July 7, 2011 at 2:06 pm
(July 7, 2011 at 10:14 am)Epimethean Wrote: (July 7, 2011 at 3:29 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: (July 7, 2011 at 3:01 am)Epimethean Wrote: Organized religion is for those who dislike reality. Seems they tend to take that dislike out on the rest of the world.
It is also for people who like to see reality as ordered, structured, sensible in general.
That doesn't change a thing about my post.
Your post could have been read as 'it is only for'. I clarified that this is not so.
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RE: Muslim Child Abuse
July 8, 2011 at 11:10 am
(July 7, 2011 at 11:55 am)Judas BentHer Wrote: Of course not all Muslims are violent scum. However, it's suicide to swallow the lie that Islam is not populated by violent scum and their enablers who excuse violent depraved acts by claiming those are not Islam. When anyone can read the Koran and learn otherwise. Because it sure isn't peace!
I heartily agree with nearly all of your post. Except maybe this:
Judas Wrote:Just pay no attention to the clit's that are excised, the heads that roll, the stones that are thrown and the blood that flows.
I'm in agreement that we cannot stop people from worshiping whatever dark lord they choose, but to be silent, for me, is tantamount to approval. I'm with FaithNoMore on this. I choose to not only pay attention, but also to draw attention to it and to point out the primitive barbaric nature of their religion. I want to make the world disgusted with the atrocities their religion brings in the hopes that we can detour others from joining and spreading their nasty disease.
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RE: Muslim Child Abuse
July 8, 2011 at 7:30 pm
(July 7, 2011 at 7:09 am)Napoleon Wrote: You go on to talk about 'in early times' and how that's reasoning for only having men talked about when harming women. What I'm saying is, is that if the quran was useful IN ALL TIMES as you claim it to be, then why is it only influenced by 'early times'. If it's truly the word of 'god' then it should be applicable to all times shouldn't it? Or is your god not capable of understanding that in 'future times' you can get big butch women who beat down on men?
It is indeed for all times, as the Quran says, "This is no less than a Message to (all) the Worlds (or nations)" (81:27).
Although it is not specifically mentioned in the Quran (i.e. striking a husband), this can be known from inference, by complementing this verse with other verses in the Quran which tells both husband and wife to treat each other fairly because what applies to the husband can be equally applied to the wife as long as it doesn't contradict the Quran.
(July 8, 2011 at 11:10 am)Cinjin Wrote: I'm in agreement that we cannot stop people from worshiping whatever dark lord they choose, but to be silent, for me, is tantamount to approval. I'm with FaithNoMore on this. I choose to not only pay attention, but also to draw attention to it and to point out the primitive barbaric nature of their religion. I want to make the world disgusted with the atrocities their religion brings in the hopes that we can detour others from joining and spreading their nasty disease.
Yes, a lot of barbaric things have happened in the name of Islam - and I would like the atheists to not to be silent about them - except that you don't project it onto Islam itself and all the Muslims.
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RE: Muslim Child Abuse
July 17, 2011 at 5:12 pm
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2011 at 5:22 pm by Judas BentHer.)
(July 8, 2011 at 11:10 am)Cinjin Wrote: I heartily agree with nearly all of your post. Except maybe this:
quote 'Judas'
Just pay no attention to the clit's that are excised, the heads that roll, the stones that are thrown and the blood that flows. (END)
I'm in agreement that we cannot stop people from worshiping whatever dark lord they choose, but to be silent, for me, is tantamount to approval. I'm with FaithNoMore on this. I choose to not only pay attention, but also to draw attention to it and to point out the primitive barbaric nature of their religion. I want to make the world disgusted with the atrocities their religion brings in the hopes that we can detour others from joining and spreading their nasty disease.
One more voice addressing the primitive barbaric nasty violent misogynistic nature of the Muslim Fundy tradition is not a bad thing. Though many who pander to the pantywaist notion of PC may whole heartedly disagree while exclaiming the excuse for their complicity with such sick practices is; we must be tolerant of other faiths and practice.
What bullshit!
One only tolerates what is otherwise intolerable. Something someone finds an accord with, respects, appreciates, approves, need not be tolerated.
That being said, I still say I don't care what terrorist psychotic sick violent offensive Muslims do in their own countries to their own people. It's what affords the reference to those regions as that of, "A Muslim Country".
Sure, we can disagree with their barbarism and call it all manner of names including backwards psychotic. However, thinking we'll stop that what is practiced because weak minds imagine their psychotic invisible benefactor who commanded those actions in order to be placated by his creation as the one and only god requires it of them, is unrealistic. Psychotic Islamics will never stop because outsiders, infidels, Kafir, object to their faithful practice. In fact, they have demonstrated in the past and shall again in the future, that any effort to curtail their deviant practice will be considered an act of aggression and thus will embolden the Psycho-Islamist to declare yet another cause for the struggle against such efforts.
Besides that, how would I feel if someone from a foreign country declared atheism was an abomination and sought to put an end to secularism and atheists in particular? How would I feel if someone abroad took exception to anything considered a lawful right in America?
I'd tell them to fuck off, that's how I'd feel. And if they sought to come here and enforce by force their personal opinion we'd have a serious problem in our streets, because those with the foreign opinion have no right here.
I see that as the same dynamic in Muslim countries. What they do inside their borders to their own people doesn't matter to me. If their people want to be free of it they'll work and declare their own struggle against it and then they'll put in the work.
When they come across our borders, thinking to make our country "tolerant" of Islamism that's when the struggle here begins. That's when it matters because those invaders think it matters to them to make us accept their barbarism under the banner of "freedom of religion". When there is a subtext to that first inalienable right of American citizens. The right to be free from a barbaric murderous backwards psychotic diseased faithful practice as is formed in the image and practice of ultra-right wing conservative (fundy) Islam.
We the people of the United States of America have every right not to be tolerant of psychotic faithful worshiping a deviant god. Within these borders, we'll prove it. Outside of them, as far as I'm concerned, we're afforded the opportunity to witness in Muslim countries, why that resolve is necessary!
(Late in getting back to you on this. I went on vacation the day after the posting.)
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