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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 6:07 pm
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(July 6, 2011 at 5:13 pm)Ace Otanas tagline, where he : Wrote: Always stick to Occam's Razer [sic]. A basic scientific principle. One I intend to stand by.
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 6:43 pm
This I would have to see. And, of course, I'd also have to see the reactions of other creation scientists see how their own methodology, created to deny scientific reality, blows up their conclusions right in their faces.
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 7:15 pm
"Goddidit" is not a scientific principle.
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 8:05 pm
They're trying to twist and turn science into something it's not. A pointless attempt to get scientific support for their baseless assertions.
Of course, the moment they deform science and reshape it so it will look as if it supports their false beliefs, is the moment it ceases to be science. They're unsupported assertions remain unsupported.
It's just creationism, not one speck of science in it at all. Completely made up shit, no value, no explanatory power and of course, holds absolutely no importance what so fucking ever.
Anything lacking in any value or explanatory power should be rejected immediately and remain completely ignored.
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 8:19 pm
(July 6, 2011 at 8:05 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: They're trying to twist and turn science into something it's not. A pointless attempt to get scientific support for their baseless assertions.
Of course, the moment they deform science and reshape it so it will look as if it supports their false beliefs, is the moment it ceases to be science. They're unsupported assertions remain unsupported.
It's just creationism, not one speck of science in it at all. Completely made up shit, no value, no explanatory power and of course, holds absolutely no importance what so fucking ever.
Anything lacking in any value or explanatory power should be rejected immediately and remain completely ignored.
Could cause a schism in the Creation Science movement: if they accept with their own doctrines of evidence that evolution is the most likely method of Creation, even if God is the motivation for it, their own doctrines also state they must then reject the Genesis argument, as they themselves would then be showing by their own claims that the story of Genesis could not be true. The creation science group is then stuck with the question "If we have proved the Genesis story to be false in some manner, how can it be the Inspired Word of God ™?
Now I doubt that a bunch of Creationists will do that. But if they do not, then they must reject Creation Science by its own rules.
Could be interesting to see how this plays out, though more likely they'll all just stick another layer of cotton in their collective ears.
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 8:38 pm
I think that this post absolutely demands Statlers input, as our resident creation science expert. Anyone else?
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 8:50 pm
I don't see how he can resist.
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 7, 2011 at 4:12 am
(July 6, 2011 at 8:19 pm)Anymouse Wrote: "If we have proved the Genesis story to be false in some manner, how can it be the Inspired Word of God ™?
Ah, but Christians have learned to get around this for years now by declaring anything that doesn't make literal sense to be metaphorical.
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 7, 2011 at 5:14 am
I have to say, from an evolutionary point of view, creationists are fantastic creatures. Probably the only mammals who evolved to talk with their asses and spew shit from their mouths.
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 7, 2011 at 8:19 am
(July 7, 2011 at 5:14 am)Kayenneh Wrote: I have to say, from an evolutionary point of view, creationists are fantastic creatures. Probably the only mammals who evolved to talk with their asses and spew shit from their mouths.
I am SO stealin' that. 
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