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Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 3:29 pm
A very strange Science article in the BBC today. It seems a creation scientist is trying to use the Bible and tenets of Creation Science themselves to debunk creationist theory and the Biblical account of creation. He is trying to show using creation science's methodology that evolution, and not divine intervention, gave rise to life on Earth. This is a long article, but here is an extract. You can read the whole article at Can religious teachings prove evolution to be true? (BBC)
"One scientist has decided to use creation science to test the validity of evolution.
"Because, he says, if it turns out that creation science proves evolution, then by its own logic, it will have to reject its own canon of research that previously denied it.
It’s a clever idea, because it once again puts evidence, rather than faith, at the centre of the debate.
"Science cannot prove that God doesn’t exist, or that God may have once put in place all known physical laws and processes that shaped the universe and everything in it.
"Science cannot challenge faith, which by its very nature, does not require evidence (many scientists are religious people who see no contradiction between their faith and work and many people of faith see no contradiction with what science can explain).
"But science does require evidence, and this evidence allows us to explain, with increasing accuracy, how the world around us works.
"The power of this evidence-based approach may explain the rise of creation science, which to briefly summarise, seeks evidence supporting the literal interpretation of the biblical book of Genesis.
"Such research is then published in journals such as Journal of Creation and Creation Research Society Quarterly, and these technical reports are then cited in a vast, growing body of populist creationist literature that conflicts with, and undermines the teaching of evolution.
"Today, more than 20% of the British public and the majority of US citizens, either tentatively or explicitly reject evolution, according to surveys published in the journal Science."
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 3:32 pm
(July 6, 2011 at 3:29 pm)Anymouse Wrote: "One scientist has decided to use creation science to test the validity of evolution.
Man, see, I've been looking for creation science all over the place and I cant find any. Who the hell is this guys supplier?
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 3:40 pm
If it works, they'll just toss it in De Nile.
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 3:42 pm
I think creation science disproves evolution completely. I mean do any of the creation scientists look like they've evolved past chimps?
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 3:43 pm
When did you start hating chimps?
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Mammals ain't evolved none at all.
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 4:49 pm
(July 6, 2011 at 3:43 pm)Rhythm Wrote: When did you start hating chimps?
I love creationist chimps dearly, so long as they keep to their cages and stay quiet.
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Quote:"The power of this evidence-based approach may explain the rise of creation science, which to briefly summarise, seeks evidence supporting the literal interpretation of the biblical book of Genesis.
And ignores reality whenever it is necessary!
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 5:04 pm
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(July 6, 2011 at 4:56 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:"The power of this evidence-based approach may explain the rise of creation science, which to briefly summarise, seeks evidence supporting the literal interpretation of the biblical book of Genesis.
And ignores reality whenever it is necessary!
If one is so arrogant as to cheery pick evidence, then one evidently has no respect for where evidence really leads. In that case, why bother with evidence at all, besides to misuse it as a tool of deception?
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RE: Creationist trying to prove evolution with creationism
July 6, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Cherry picking and deception. That seems to be all that they're good at. They suck at being right about anything. That's why they are ignored. 
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