A question about original sin.

[Judas BentHer]

... So I stop talking to them.

Now see, you can't say that and then talk to them here in any thread they post. And there's the rub.

I repeat myself using different avenues of argument hoping to get through at some point, as I so choose. I can't say I'll stop talking to them, however it's my hope that perhaps I'll stand to get close to making them think outside the book. Of course, to be fair, I have no doubt they would say the same as to why they continue to speak to atheists. Hoping to get us to see the light.
The difference being, their light is an illusion. In order to enter into it one has to set aside the intellect so as to concede to abide by the darkness of ignorance that Christianity promotes.

Even if I was there, as long as there were two rocks with the right properties that I could smack together so as to create a spark, I'd find my way out.

[Epimethean]

"Claiming that there is a thin line between all moral law-abiding citizens and criminal activity is just a fabrication. True of some perhaps, but certainly not the majority."


Hear, hear! When the monos start in with huge paintbrushes, it is time to leave them out at the barn.

[fr0d0]

You're seriously deluded if you think you're above failure.

[Epimethean]

That has no bearing on being a near-criminal.

Speaking of delusions, how's jesus today, fr0d?

[Faith No More]

fr0d0, you seem to be equating failure with sin. To sin is to go against divine law, and since an atheist sees no divine law, it is impossible for them to sin. No one is above failure, but to sin is in the eye of the beholder.

[Anomalocaris]

You're seriously deluded if you think you're above failure.

Everyone fails, but it is the success that we do achieve sometimes in correcting what in your cosmology would be "god's" failures that makes us great and above bothering with your pathetically pompous "god".

[Godscreated]

You asked the question not to learn but to make light of what christians believe, so why should I take you seriously, you give me no reason to.

As a Christian you have every reason to!

God has not asked me to force the gospel of Christ on anyone, and when a statement is made to make light of what I believe then I know someone is not interested in learning what the scriptures teach. You seem to know the scriptures, remember what Christ told His disciples when He sent them out to spread the "good news" and they were rejected, "leave that town and on your way out dust off your feet as a sign to that town that they will be judged for their rejection of your preaching." Now when someone on this forum rejects what I know as the truth of Christ then what else am I suppose to do, hounding someone is not the answer is it, all that christians hear, is, do not force your beliefs on me. It's no wonder that christians do not share the gospel any more than they do. Besides it's against the rules to preach here so what's one to do?

"Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thy heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbor, and not suffer sin upon him."

If the Christian God is real and the consequences of sin are real our souls are in jeopardy of hellfire. Your god requires you to reprove us of our sin, yet you're so disinterested and doing a piss-poor job quite frankly. I personally don't know, and never have known, any god to exist in reality. If you know something we don't and you, having an ounce of compassion or empathy for your fellow man are obligated to do everything in your power to save as many as possible for future kingdom.

You are making yourself out to be quite the hypocrite GC, here I am, an atheist, a former-Christian, telling you what you what your duty is, what you're supposed to believe and profess in.

Unless of course your real purpose for squatting here on this thread acting all smug as the elect is simply to "store up wrath" against us for the coming day of judgement, which would make you an even bigger arsehole than the god of the Bible, and very few have that claim, regardless of what you believe hopefully that is not the case with you GC

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I hope you do not believe what you have stated here, I do not try to be smug, look down on others, act self righteous and ect., I will say what I see as the truth and not back away from it. I have no desire to, as you say, "store up wrath" against you, I surely do not know what gave you that idea. I have without preaching tried to reveal the truth of scriptures by explaining posted scriptures when they are quoted to me, I do not get to all of them I wish I could but time is limited, the ones I do get to and explain are always rejected or I hear nothing back, so what am I to think?

God made no one suffer they brought that upon themselves,

Upon that we can both agree, no god anywhere has done anything to cause suffering.

there is a price to be paid for unrepented sin.

WHY?

Because all sin is against God and that is what He ask of us, I'm surprized you ask that question being a former christian, unrepented sin is carried with one forever and no one with sin as part of them will be allowed into heaven. This as I'm sure you know is why Christ the Son of God had to give His life, without our acceptance of who He is and what He did for us there is no forgiveness of sin, no matter how many times one ask for forgiveness. So in short here's the gospel who here will believe...

[Epimethean]

"... no god anywhere has done anything to cause suffering."

Interesting statement coming from a monotheist.

[Ace Otana]

"... no god anywhere has done anything to cause suffering."

Yeah right.

[Anomalocaris]

"... no god anywhere has done anything to cause suffering."

Interesting statement coming from a monotheist.

Not intersting. What the noises coming from a Yamato plant may sounds like in English words do not interest me.