Washington State Parents Most Likely Not to Vaccinate

[Cinjin]

A local MD told me there is no evidence whatsoever to link autism to vaccinations.

He said the reason why you're seeing so many "more" cases of autism is because they have now classified far more varied degrees of autism than have ever existed prior. Add to that - that there are simply more people in the world and that too brings the numbers of the disease and sickly up in general. Add to that the small percent of hippie naturalist nut-jobs spreading rumors and lies to promote their own varied agendas and ---- Voila! Instant scapegoat and national panic. All of it bogus.

Apparently, there's some real idiots in Washington leading parents astray and promoting dangerous stupidity.

Research people! Medical science is not the enemy.

[Autumnlicious]

Edit; Because you're BS is not really worth talking to.

Yeah, you run away, little coward. I figured presenting evidence would make you flee.

[Minimalist]

Is this a typical American thing?

Yeah....and I bet fucking jesus is at the bottom of it.

[Autumnlicious]

Voila! Instant scapegoat and national panic. All of it bogus.

Same thing happened in France with the Hepatitis B vaccine and people's claims that it caused multiple sclerosis, as I noted in my evidence from the WHO.

And vaccines in poorer, Muslim-dominant areas have from time to time been totally eschewed when rumors arise that the vaccines are an evil western plot to shrink Muslim boy's dicks and make them infertile.

Anti-vaccination scares are not a new occurrence, unfortunately.

I guess that's one thing Americans, French and most Muslims can share -- pig ignorance.

[Judas BentHer]

Edit; Because you're BS is not really worth talking to.

Yeah, you run away, little coward. I figured presenting evidence would make you flee.

It's a damn shame a low life like yourself is an Admin. here.
You shit on members, call them names, attack, flame, attempt to insult and all the while "Administrator" swings around your neck as evidence of the best this forum can do.

I was mistaken about the law in France. I was misinformed. So what.
As to the rest of your links, they aren't evidence. They're links to back up what you argue point by point. That newborns should be inoculated. Yours is an opinion, not a law. And it's an opinion based on but one point of view. When there is plenty of evidence regarding the dangers of early childhood inoculations.

While I'm a man and not Jenny McCarthy, your juvenile ignorance somehow thinks calling me that means something. As if she's the only one out there dispensing information so that parents can make an informed decision about vaccinating their child(ren). You're pathetically uninformed and proud of it. I admire your resolve in letting the net know that.

I considered getting the links to support my point of view, but you're not worth the effort for what you'll denigrate after one goes to the trouble. Go ahead, call more names in response to that. It's fascinating to witness how young you are, no matter your actual age.

So let your bully side exercise yet again as if I take your comments and attempt at insult to heart. Rather, it's simply intriguing to watch what you are for as long as I choose to.

[Autumnlicious]

It's a damn shame a low life like yourself is an Admin. here.
You shit on members, call them names, attack, flame, attempt to insult and all the while "Administrator" swings around your neck as evidence of the best this forum can do.

I'm not an admin. I'm a moderator. You have a problem with me, take it up with the red guys.

But, please, don't let facts get in the way.

I was mistaken about the law in France. I was misinformed. So what.
As to the rest of your links, they aren't evidence. They're links to back up what you argue point by point. That newborns should be inoculated. Yours is an opinion, not a law. And it's an opinion based on but one point of view. When there is plenty of evidence regarding the dangers of early childhood inoculations.

ev·i·dence/ˈevədəns/
Verb: Be or show evidence of.
Noun: The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.

That which I linked to constitutes as information and facts of which I use to:
a) show that your report about the French and vaccinations, is indeed, false.
b) show, via a reputable entity, that the supposed link between MS and Hep B vaccine is nonexistent, of which had precluded the real vaccine scare in France in the late 90s.
c) an article that presents references to the usage of vaccines and children and combating misconceptions.

While I'm a man and not Jenny McCarthy, your juvenile ignorance somehow thinks calling me that means something. As if she's the only one out there dispensing information so that parents can make an informed decision about vaccinating their child(ren). You're pathetically uninformed and proud of it. I admire your resolve in letting the net know that.

Classic avoiding-the-point. You routinely claim I am uninformed, yet you fail to provide studies and papers, only essays emboldened with "THE TRUTH."

I considered getting the links to support my point of view, but you're not worth the effort for what you'll denigrate after one goes to the trouble. Go ahead, call more names in response to that. It's fascinating to witness how young you are, no matter your actual age.

Oh look everybody, I'm not good enough to warrant evidence!

So let your bully side exercise yet again as if I take your comments and attempt at insult to heart. Rather, it's simply intriguing to watch what you are for as long as I choose to.

Yep. Guess we can fall back to my earlier quote then:

Yeah, you run away, little coward. I figured presenting evidence would make you flee.

[The Grand Nudger]

And vaccines in poorer, Muslim-dominant areas have from time to time been totally eschewed when rumors arise that the vaccines are an evil western plot to shrink Muslim boy's dicks and make them infertile.

They aren't? And why aren't they? We have money for

http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/cia-...perations/

but no money for penis shrinking vaccines?

[LastPoet]

A local MD told me there is no evidence whatsoever to link autism to vaccinations.

He said the reason why you're seeing so many "more" cases of autism is because they have now classified far more varied degrees of autism than have ever existed prior. Add to that - that there are simply more people in the world and that too brings the numbers of the disease and sickly up in general. Add to that the small percent of hippie naturalist nut-jobs spreading rumors and lies to promote their own varied agendas and ---- Voila! Instant scapegoat and national panic. All of it bogus.

Apparently, there's some real idiots in Washington leading parents astray and promoting dangerous stupidity.

Research people! Medical science is not the enemy.

This is one of those cases that the only difference now its that we know more. It reminds me of a similar situation, e.g. those people always bitching "The world is going to an end. look at the increase of children abuses!", child abuse always existed, perhaps even more before, but the lack of information, the 'shame' of reporting it, prevented alot of them from being known by the general public. People just love to find correlations and equating them to causations.

[The Grand Nudger]

Gotta love that massively over-developed developed pattern seeking tendency. Who knows why on earth we might have developed such a habit...lol. That's probably a mystery too.

[Aegrus]

There are hospitals in the US that won't let parents take their newborn home until they have given them a name.
There are States that will seize the child, through CPS, if the newborn hasn't had all their shots by the time they're 6 months of age.
That's abject stupidity, when the newborns immune system isn't fully developed until they're 18 months of age, post utero, so as to handle the production of antibodies that are suppose to generate when vaccinations are injected into the body.
France, long years ago, linked early vaccinations to SIDS. Because it was found the victim newborns immune systems weren't fully capable of handling an onslaught of chemical serums into the body and as a consequence the body shut down. A law was passed putting off first series shots till the infant was something like 1 year old. After that, the rate of SIDS reported deaths dropped dramatically.

The U.S FDA was aware of this French study. But because it was conducted through French labs and hospitals, the FDA didn't consider it credible because they hadn't had oversight on an experimental model conducted in U.S lab's and/or hospitals.
It's common sense really, but the FDA, while common, isn't so much when it comes to sense, compassion or foresight.
If a newborns immune system isn't fully developed after birth, and it's not, then inundating that little pure physiological system just getting use to everything in it's world, from home environment, air quality, etc... with purified chemicals containing every altered disease causing microorganisms in the first shots array, is going to put at risk or kill the child before it's immune system is ready to fight what it's antibodies are suppose to fight, were they up and running in a fully developed system.

The exceptions, those not suffering SIDS, are indeed the exceptions. But not because policy makes sense and that's how it's suppose to work. But because they got lucky and survived what is otherwise killer policy.

Good for Washington State parents. Think outside the controls. Make for a healthy child, before shooting up an unprepared immune system and burying the child. Because while at the funeral at least it can be said you were in compliance with the laws that came before that.

You make some interesting points, but you aren't completely correct. Number one, most children have no negative reaction to vaccinations outside a temporary and mild fever. Number two, the minute percent that actually dies or even becomes seriously ill is worth the alternative- the return of small-pox and other deadly diseases to the population en masse, and event which could kill millions yearly, even in the developed world.

Number three, vaccinations once could cause autism in children, but the suspect chemical has now been removed, making the contraction of autism from a vaccination impossible. There would appear to be a correlation between vaccines and autism because children are vaccinated around the same time that autism normally manifests itself in physical symptoms if it is present. The reason why the studies you mentioned happened "many long years ago" is because they would no longer find the same results today.

Opting out of vaccinations may indeed be safer for the small percent that does it, but if the majority opted out, the diseases would return in force and be spread like wildfire.