I still don't understand why anyone would make up a person like the Biblical Christ..

[MilesTailsPrower]

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[quote]It's the fact that people believe he is real that gets me[/quote]

[quote]I guess people say this all the time, but how can you say for certain he is not real.[/quote]
How can you be certain unicorns and leprechauns aren't real? In this case, the Flying Spaghetti monster is real?

From what I've read in the bible, it's pretty easy to prove god doesn't exist. Starting with Evolution (TOE) & The Big Bang Theory, but thinking a god created all of us is highly irrational. There is no concrete evidence leading towards a 'gods' existence. You'd think everything in the bible would be correct, which in fact it is the easiest thing to contradict.

Maybe proof isn't what you're looking for, maybe it's the morality of your god. God seems to be a very prejudice, and intolerant person from my point of view. Psalm 14:1 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
This, which in fact is what gets me, because it's merely the other way around. Have you seen any Atheist in the name of god not being real drive a plane into the twin towers? How about the holocaust, why did Hitler target the Jews; a specific religious group? How about the indoctrinations, and inquisitions? Look at Islam, it's a Theocracy full of chaos; but they rule in the name of god. Is it right for people to justify their acts against humanity with God? But that's outside of the bible right, and your said god wouldn't commit these vial crimes now would he? Let me link you to a page on how many people god has killed in the bible:http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/...bible.html
It's kinda hard to figure out who is the antagonist in the bible, the Devil or the Lord.

Another joke I found is Divine Healing, do you know how many people have died because their parents believe that their almighty god will heal their children? Death by Faith? "A current account is that of Madeline Kara Neumann of Wisconsin, USA. Aged 11, Madeline died on March 23, 2008, after her parents prayed for healing rather than getting medical help for a treatable form of diabetes. Both her parents, Pentecostal Christians, were convicted of second-degree reckless homicide and face up to 25 years in prison."
But Divine Healing are just rumors, they have no first hand account of god actually doing anything to them. In the case of Madeline, god didn't want to help that poor innocent child, now did he? Another excuse that stems from that is "It was gods divine plan!", so they use god to justify their abuse to the child? Here is another good one:


Again, they are using god to justify their actions.

Why would god reach out to you in a dream, why not in real life? When you are asleep your dreams become irrational, without any logic coming into play. So how can you be sure it was god, not simply a dream?

[The Grand Nudger]

Actually, when god doesn't heal people it has nothing to do with god, their faith wasn't strong enough. That's right, it's the dead childs fault. Even so, the devil has a good point to make here and there.

"The decisions by vote of Church Councils as to what should and should not be considered Holy Writ; the manifest mistakes in the ancient versions; the thirty thousand different readings in the Old Testament, and the three hundred thousand in the New – these facts show how a mortal and material sense stole into the divine record, with its own hue darkening to some extent the inspired pages."-Mary Baker Eddy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science

[Epimethean]

First of all, what about all the fulfilled prophecies from the Old Testament? If we, as skeptics contend, do not really know who wrote the books of the Bible, then how do we know that they "fit in" the prophecies from the Old Testament that were about Christ, to the New Testament?

Secondly, why not make up a messianic figure who would be a politlcal/military deliverer from Rome-which, AFIK, is what the Jews of the time expected the messiah to be. Then we would know that the NT (and the rest of the Bible) to be nonsense. But that is not what we find-we find someone who spoke to a Samaritan woman-when Samaritan's were considered racial half-breeds by the Jews, and a woman's testimony was not considered valid in court at the time.

With all due respect to everyone on this site, why would any of this be made up???

Sae's response hit this one home. Like most any made up superbeing (Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy for parents; Ronald Reagan for Republicans; Chuck Norris for the rest of us), Jesus was a perfect vector for drawing forward an agenda of mass control.

[Minimalist]

Actually, when god doesn't heal people it has nothing to do with god, their faith wasn't strong enough. That's right, it's the dead childs fault.

It's 'god's' way of saying "FUCK YOU!!!!"

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Actually, when god doesn't heal people it has nothing to do with god, their faith wasn't strong enough. That's right, it's the dead childs fault. Even so, the devil has a good point to make here and there.

Indeed,that means they are just unworthy. God has his standards after all and hates amputees.

----After over 200 MILLION visitors looking for a cure the Church recognises a total of 67 cures from Lourdes.


The rate of spontaneous remission of disease is [a minimum of] 1:30,000.I think that works out at about 600 in 200 million. Something doesn't quite add up.

[Epimethean]

I always thought that god hated them before they were amputees, but hated them extra when there was less of them to loathe.

[Minimalist]

.I think that works out at about 600 in 200 million. Something doesn't quite add up.

That must be why religious shits hate math, Pad.