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Poll: Do you believe in God?
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Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
(May 13, 2023 at 11:57 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(May 13, 2023 at 10:46 am)Angrboda Wrote: The Abrahamic religions are zero-sum, so the existence of competitors poses an existential threat.  Diversity is seen as an evil rather than a good.

With respect to some truth claims but certainly not all...elephants and blind men, etc. But there really is not all that much different between Roman Catholicism, Othodox, Methodists, and Quakers. Nowadays, most of it is bickering over earthly authority and dogma differences are taken with a grain of salt. That has not always been the case....but it has been a long time since somones been publicly burned at the stake.

Though not long since someone has been thrown off a roof, buried up to their neck and pelted with rocks, or beheaded. The only reason the auto-da-fé is passe is because reasonable people stopped tolerating it, not because it became reformed. Islam is what Christianity has been, and there's plenty of evidence that it would go back to that if it were but allowed to do so. Christianity has been tamed, but it is still the same beast.
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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
Yeah, some Christians maintain that nothing matters apart from a few basic tenets centered on Jesus. That’s a nice, concise, and inclusive thought, I suppose, but I don’t see how it can be true. If it were true, wouldn’t there just be one big unified group of Christians with only a few offshoots at most? In this case, actions speak much louder than words. Something does matter in addition to believing that Jesus is God, and it must matter a great deal because wars have been fought, people tortured, and families torn apart over disagreements within Christianity.

So the truth is that Christians can’t even agree on precisely who Jesus is, what he wants us to do, how we are supposed to worship him, and how we get to heaven. Some denominations project live-and-let-live attitudes. Others openly state that they are right and everyone else is wrong (and will pay a severe price on Judgment Day). We can get you into heaven, they say, but that other church is a one-way ticket to hell.

Compare that to science, which is based on evidence and things anyone can prove. It’s the reason there are not 41,000 versions of the theory of evolution or 41,000 different scientific explanations for how the Sun produces energy.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
(May 13, 2023 at 12:58 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(May 13, 2023 at 11:57 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: With respect to some truth claims but certainly not all...elephants and blind men, etc. But there really is not all that much different between Roman Catholicism, Othodox, Methodists, and Quakers. Nowadays, most of it is bickering over earthly authority and dogma differences are taken with a grain of salt. That has not always been the case....but it has been a long time since somones been publicly burned at the stake.

Though not long since someone has been thrown off a roof, buried up to their neck and pelted with rocks, or beheaded.  The only reason the auto-da-fé is passe is because reasonable people stopped tolerating it, not because it became reformed.  Islam is what Christianity has been, and there's plenty of evidence that it would go back to that if it were but allowed to do so.  Christianity has been tamed, but it is still the same beast.



Caged, not tamed.
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