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		No problems with atheism then...  
		August 18, 2011 at 3:49 pm 
		
	 
	
		In another thread I tried to start a discussion on what problems there might be with atheism. What I had in mind was some kind of general discussion on the basis that (in common with every other proposition under the sun) there are some problems associated with atheism. I had hoped that people would be interested to identify them, discuss their natures, and possible solutions. 
 
To try and kick start the discussion I proposed the way I found it impossible to find atheist-based help to deal with particular dilemma that I experienced some years ago and had therefore gone to a local minister of church, who I had found to be extremely helpful. However it turned out that people proved to be far more interested in berating me for my failure to find an atheistic solution to my problem than they were in entertaining any possibility that there may in fact be any possible problems inherent in atheism. 
 
I am not quite sure whether this unfortunate and (to my mind) somewhat savage response was mainly caused by my having chosen a bad initial example, or whether it is because the participants are unable to even contemplate any possibility that there might be any problems whatsoever with atheism. 
 
Ever hopeful (and trusting the emotion of "hope" is permitted within current atheist dogma)  I have decided to open the same subject again in a new thread but without any example of my own. Instead I ask others to propose anything that you might consider to be a problem with atheism, which may then perhaps be discussed in a more civilised (and possibly intelligent) manner than was my initial experience. 
 
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		RE: No problems with atheism then...  
		August 18, 2011 at 3:59 pm 
		
	 
	
		A problem with atheism.....some atheists..lol.
	 
	
	
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		RE: No problems with atheism then...  
		August 18, 2011 at 4:22 pm 
		
	 
	
		 (August 18, 2011 at 3:49 pm)Godnose Wrote:  I am not quite sure whether this unfortunate and (to my mind) somewhat savage response was mainly caused by my having chosen a bad initial example, or whether it is because the participants are unable to even contemplate any possibility that there might be any problems whatsoever with atheism. 
Or because the person asking the question was being intentionally obtuse.
	  
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: No problems with atheism then...  
		August 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm 
		
	 
	
		There is no evidence that atheism is correct - along with theism - and that's a bit of a problem actually, isn't it?
	 
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		I like your crazyness... you know, in a bad way
	 
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: No problems with atheism then...  
		August 18, 2011 at 4:52 pm 
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		 (August 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm)Rayaan Wrote:  There is no evidence that atheism is correct - along with theism - and that's a bit of a problem actually, isn't it? 
A problem is something that exists in the mind. So if you say it is a problem then it is a problem. 
 
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		RE: No problems with atheism then...  
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		 (August 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm)Rayaan Wrote:  There is no evidence that atheism is correct - along with theism - and that's a bit of a problem actually, isn't it? 
Only a problem for those that claim something exists.
	  
	
	
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		August 18, 2011 at 4:57 pm 
		
	 
	
		 (August 18, 2011 at 3:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote:  A problem with atheism.....some atheists..lol. 
Very droll. How did you vote in the poll?
	  
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: No problems with atheism then...  
		August 18, 2011 at 4:58 pm 
		
	 
	
		 (August 18, 2011 at 4:53 pm)Rhythm Wrote:   (August 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm)Rayaan Wrote:  There is no evidence that atheism is correct - along with theism - and that's a bit of a problem actually, isn't it?  
Only a problem for those that claim something exists. 
Exactly, just because a ton of people say there is some god doesn't make that true, either, nor is it evidence. 
	  
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: No problems with atheism then...  
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		 (August 18, 2011 at 4:53 pm)Rhythm Wrote:   (August 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm)Rayaan Wrote:  There is no evidence that atheism is correct - along with theism - and that's a bit of a problem actually, isn't it?  
Only a problem for those that claim something exists. 
So it is a problem for some then. In the poll did you vote for yourself or for those you are representing here? Or did you choose the path of apathy?
	  
	
	
        
	
		
	 
 
 
	 
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