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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
October 25, 2011 at 9:18 pm
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An example of this would be what then Stat? Don't refer to god when attempting to prove that god has some sort of essence. I have the same nature as some guy in china, does that mean we're part of a me-head together? Are he and I two distinct persons who share an "essence"?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
October 25, 2011 at 9:59 pm
(October 25, 2011 at 9:18 pm)Rhythm Wrote: An example of this would be what then Stat? Don't refer to god when attempting to prove that god has some sort of essence. I have the same nature as some guy in china, does that mean we're part of a me-head together? Are he and I two distinct persons who share an "essence"?
The Trinity is the only example of this. You and the guy in China do not have identical natures.
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
October 25, 2011 at 9:59 pm
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Oh, so you've created a definition to suit your argument with nothing to show for it? We're to simply accept this by sheer weight of your saying it? Doesn't cut it for me.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
October 25, 2011 at 10:02 pm
(October 25, 2011 at 9:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Oh, so you've created a definition to suit your argument with nothing to show for it? We're to simply accept this by sheer weight of your saying it? Doesn't cut it for me.
So you are saying that you do not believe in unique cases? I call B.S. You are saying that there is more than one of you in existence? Uh oh!
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
October 25, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Don't even try that shit, explain yourself, don't go off on a tangent about shit I didn't say.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
October 25, 2011 at 10:17 pm
(October 25, 2011 at 10:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Don't even try that shit, explain yourself, don't go off on a tangent about shit I didn't say.
But you did say it! You said I have to point to other examples to prove my initial example is correct. If my initial example is a unique case, as the Trinity most certainly is, I do not have to do that at all.
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
October 25, 2011 at 10:19 pm
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Then show me the trinity Statler. I have a pig with wings, it's the only one, it's unique.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
October 25, 2011 at 10:29 pm
(October 25, 2011 at 10:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Then show me the trinity Statler. I have a pig with wings, it's the only one, it's unique.
Show you how? Not all truth claims are discerned through observation.
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
October 25, 2011 at 10:31 pm
It's not my responsibility to figure that out, your claim, your burden, get at it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
October 25, 2011 at 10:54 pm
(October 25, 2011 at 10:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It's not my responsibility to figure that out, your claim, your burden, get at it.
This is all backed up by God's word, that's all the proof I need.
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