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RE: Incredulous Logic
August 23, 2011 at 6:43 pm
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Incredulous Logic
August 23, 2011 at 8:09 pm
(August 23, 2011 at 6:18 pm)Cinjin Wrote: It's really quite obvious what I'm saying, but hey, don't feel too bad about that. Following reason and logic isn't really a xtian's strong suit.
Isaac Watts begs to differ. So exactly where in scripture does it say that creation is still perfect post fall? Since that appears to be what you are implying here. If you cannot find it, then you are guilty of the straw man fallacy. That's a logical fallacy in case logic was not your strong suit. 
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RE: Incredulous Logic
August 23, 2011 at 8:10 pm
(This post was last modified: August 23, 2011 at 8:18 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You keep appealing to logic, it's a fucking joke. Care to put your name behind anything in the chain mail? I'm sorry, I forgot to allow for the fact that you think the email is full of shit too......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Incredulous Logic
August 23, 2011 at 8:41 pm
(August 23, 2011 at 8:09 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: (August 23, 2011 at 6:18 pm)Cinjin Wrote: It's really quite obvious what I'm saying, but hey, don't feel too bad about that. Following reason and logic isn't really a xtian's strong suit.
Isaac Watts begs to differ. So exactly where in scripture does it say that creation is still perfect post fall? Since that appears to be what you are implying here. If you cannot find it, then you are guilty of the straw man fallacy. That's a logical fallacy in case logic was not your strong suit.
Look at you ... lol ... you're already setting up the argument to be about mankind screwing up your lord's "perfect" creation and everything after "the fall" is man's own fault. Therefore, those people with those hideous face tumors are not god's responsibility. It's just the stupidest most laughable get-out-of-jail-free argument there is and you're pathetic for wanting to use it. The only part that makes it infuriating is that you'll do a complete 180 when you're telling others about the all-powerful nature of your god who is "always in control" ...... yet somehow not of this huh?
Yes old book, I will believe whatever you tell me.
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RE: Incredulous Logic
August 23, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Waldork thinks he can set up a "logical argument" on the premise that his fucking 'god' said or did something without demonstrating that his fucking 'god' is anything other than a figment of his imagination.
No luck, Waldork....logic is not your strong suit.
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RE: Incredulous Logic
August 24, 2011 at 4:33 pm
(This post was last modified: August 24, 2011 at 4:36 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
(August 23, 2011 at 6:01 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: (August 23, 2011 at 5:55 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I can't tell if you are talking about Christians here or many of the atheists on this forum. 
One believes in an invisible man in the sky and make up all kinds of stories and claims about it. The other, rejects the whole thing as a load of bull. Not hard to tell whom I'm talking about. 
Christians don't believe in an "invisible man who lives in the sky", so I am not sure who you are talking about.
(August 23, 2011 at 8:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You keep appealing to logic, it's a fucking joke. Care to put your name behind anything in the chain mail? I'm sorry, I forgot to allow for the fact that you think the email is full of shit too......
It is unfortunate my appeals to logic offend you, but I will not apologize for being rational.
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RE: Incredulous Logic
August 24, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Oh, mea culpa, he's not invisible? Well then, pics or it didn't happen.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Incredulous Logic
August 24, 2011 at 4:41 pm
(This post was last modified: August 24, 2011 at 4:45 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
(August 23, 2011 at 8:41 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Look at you ... lol ... you're already setting up the argument to be about mankind screwing up your lord's "perfect" creation and everything after "the fall" is man's own fault. Therefore, those people with those hideous face tumors are not god's responsibility. It's just the stupidest most laughable get-out-of-jail-free argument there is and you're pathetic for wanting to use it. The only part that makes it infuriating is that you'll do a complete 180 when you're telling others about the all-powerful nature of your god who is "always in control" ...... yet somehow not of this huh?
Yes old book, I will believe whatever you tell me.
Well "everything after the fall" is not man's fault, but physical death and disease are. Why would you argue against a position you knew was not the Christian position and then act like you are arguing against Christianity? That seems downright dishonest to me. The fact that you find something laughable has no bearing on whether it is true or not, I hope you realize that.
(August 24, 2011 at 4:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Oh, mea culpa, he's not invisible? Well then, pics or it didn't happen.
Was the American Revolutionary War invisible? No? Well pics or it didn't happen!! Your reasoning looks pretty absurd when it is regurgitated back at you huh?
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RE: Incredulous Logic
August 24, 2011 at 4:48 pm
God didn't leave any bullets...or muskets...or documents...or paintings...or clothing...
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RE: Incredulous Logic
August 24, 2011 at 4:49 pm
(This post was last modified: August 24, 2011 at 4:51 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Or pics thereof, which I can link profusely, try again. In any case Stat, God didn't happen, he exists, right, in the here and now, false analogy.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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