Republibertariangoodguys suggest reading Ron Paul for all Americans.

[Minimalist]

No, but there are Libertarian economic policies.

So what? There were Communist economic policies too. How well did they work out? I must have missed the "state withering away."

I understand that you love to point to policies and principles but we live in the real world. Here, in 2011, the libertarians we have running around are unashamed corporate whores who think they should be able to do whatever they want whenever they want to in the name of profit and fuck anyone who gets in their way. And not only do they think the government should not stop them...they think the government should facilitate their transfer of wealth to the upper 1%.

As I've chided you before, unless you are one of those 1% your "principles" are against your own economic interests.

I'm still waiting for an example of when these "libertarian" principles were ever used successfully in a modern state. I don't expect you to produce such an example. After all, Marx failed at that as well.

[reverendjeremiah]

You will not get that answer out of them Min..they will pick up the goal post and move it back yet even more and then say "No TRUE libertarian is like that! Austrian School economics is perfect!"

..don't ask them if Austrian school has ever been used in real life or actually tested on a society... you will draw their ire.

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And Fred Phelps is a registered Democrat and former candidate who supports progressive economic policies... So what?

Really? Can I see the evidence?

[theVOID]

[reverendjeremiah]

Look everybody..Void is praising the theiving depression economics of the Hoover administration and claiming it as a "win" for Libertarians world wide.

[Tiberius]

Look everybody..Void is praising the theiving depression economics of the Hoover administration and claiming it as a "win" for Libertarians world wide.

No he isn't. You really should read people's posts properly. He never claimed it was a "win" for anyone, he just stated the facts: that after using AE, America got out of the depression faster than any other depression in modern history.

[theVOID]

Look everybody..Void is praising the theiving depression economics of the Hoover administration and claiming it as a "win" for Libertarians world wide.

Are you through putting your foot in your own mouth yet Rev?

If you actually watched the video (though maybe hoping you would was foolish, you clearly have no interest in scholarship) you would have seen Tom Woods specifically say that Warren Harding ignored the advice of Hoover in formulating his response to the depression and it was doing about the exact opposite of what Hoover recommended at the time that lead to the 1920 depression being the shortest in modern history.

I don't know how well you know your own history or if you were even remotely aware that there was a depression in 1920-21 and were simply confused, but Hoover was not the president during the depression of 1920 but the later depression in 1929.

Also, it's specifically Hoover who is cited as the shining example of the effectiveness of Stimulus spending, despite his policies leading to the longest depression in history. I'm glad at least you acknowledge how disastrous and immoral his policies were, though that only makes it more absurd when you claim the people who were of the complete opposite economic views are the fascists...

[reverendjeremiah]

Are you through putting your foot in your own mouth yet Rev?

Translation: When are you going to grow tired of me moving my goal post back and just tell me Im right?

Frankly I didnt watch your video because I refuse to waste my time watching any videos you post.

I don't know how well you know your own history or if you were even remotely aware that there was a depression in 1920-21 and were simply confused, but Hoover was not the president during the depression of 1920 but the later depression in 1929.

So it wasnt THAT depression that AE fixed. But AE fixed a depression in 1920, which really did WONDERFUL for the economy..except in your own posting you fail to notice that if what you say is true, not only did AE NOT work, but was a precursor to the BIGGEST depression to ever hit America just less than 9 years later. If AE was used in 1920, then I can honestly say that it was the cause of the great depression, as most economic system installed in America tends to take several years for them to really kick in.

Are you not even seeing that?

Of course not...just be rude to me again, like you always are to most everyone on this forum, and brush the superman cape on your political views again. Never has you political views failed..because if they DID fail..then it wasnt REALLY Libertarian...was it?

Hoover an example of stimulus money? LMFAO. He lowered taxes during a recession, which helped cause the depression among other things.

Besides..whats with your messed up attitude? Stoners, pot heads and other waistoids such as yourself are usually laid back and easy going. Has the quality of Pot lately been low?

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As far as Fred Phelps is concerned..The Democrat party is an "everybody's welcome" type of party. There is also a difference between southern and northern democrats. The democrat party has its fair share of religious freaks and racists as well. So yes, the democrat party isnt perfect. Far from it. Also, yes Phelps IS (or perhaps WAS) in cohoots with the Democrat party..he tried to run for one of its offices didnt he? Apparently the majority of democrat voters around him considered him a poor choice. There are quite a few usavory types and groups and corporations in cohoots with the democratic party. Yup, I openly and truthfully admit it...they are in cohoots with the Democrats.

Whats wrong Void? Did that back fire on you?

Now..with that said..I am an INDEPENDENT Progressive. The word Independent means "not currently affiliated with a party" in this context. Which means I vote for the most progressive person REGARDLESS of party affiliation. This year I more than likely will be voting many people from the green party, and maybe a small handful of Democrats.

...but we all know that isnt the same rules for Voidian Libertarianism. If a Fascist group asks its members to vote for a Libertarian into the Republican party, then that Libertarian is innocent. I notice that you dont argue something like:

"Besides, a real fascist would not vote libertarian. Thats just someone 'calling' themselves a fascist, and is really a Libertarian....its obvious. If he wasnt libertarian then why would he vote libertarian?"

No, of course that argument will NEVER come from your mouth, even though it is JUST as relevant as any other argument we have had. Brush the cape on your political views, for it never does no wrong. Those who do wrong in the name of Voidian Libertarianism arent true scottsmen...I mean libertarians.


If Penn Jellete were to come out tommorrow and say "fuck all black people..they should all DIE!", then Void would merely say "Penn wasnt ever a 'real' Libertarian anyways...he just said he was one...saying and believing are two different things...Just because you vote for and root for Libertarians doesnt make you a 'real' Libertarian....comparing libertarianism to Penn is a personal attack on me and the next time you do it I will rate your warning up!!!!" And then Void would stamp his feet, and possibly run off to get stoned out of his mind again. Now go ahead and say I am personally attacking you with the pot quote..the man who has a pot leaf and "administoner" for his avatar.

I will be even more truthful to you. Theodore Roosevelt was VERY MUCH a Progressive. In fact he started the Progressive movement in America. He was also a bit racist and like to refer to black people as "darkies". He also waxed poetic about slaves he once knew who refused to leave their slave homes and refused to ask to be paid for their work. Sure, he had some unsavory characteristics about him, but he still VERY MUCH was a 'true' Progressive.

[The Grand Nudger]

LOL, the WBC is a well known fount of legal actions for which the Phelps family sues anyone and their brother. It was in all likelihood created for this purpose alone. Generate an income, avoid taxation of that income. Job well done.

[theVOID]

[Autumnlicious]

Bachmann is an authoritarian reactionary conservative, with fascistic tendencies.

Hardly a Nazi, though in a similar league as such scum.

And I'm saying this with the suicide epidemic in her "holy land" (district of power) in mind, noting her reprehensible policies and pro-bullying stance that has cost the lives of promising young students, because they were gay, suspected of such or didn't agree with the monstrous tactics of the anti-gay community.