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RE: A leopard can't change its spots.
September 14, 2011 at 4:03 pm
(September 14, 2011 at 3:58 pm)frankiej Wrote: I have just never seen the image that way... I just see it as an innocent image. But, people will interpret in another way...
I never ever even saw it connected to black people... I still only see it as a rather well designed character, but the fact that people abuse that character does sadden me.
It has a history in racist terms. I'm not surprised you didn't immediately grasp the connection, because its popularity as a " harmless toy " has wained over the decades since racism was more in-your-face than it is today.
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RE: A leopard can't change its spots.
September 14, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Maybe it is that I am very, very hard to offend that I think everything is okay... I see it as either everything is okay or nothing is.
I obviously don't have a racist bone or cell in my body and I have grown up in a time where there is more pressure on eradicating racism...
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RE: A leopard can't change its spots.
September 14, 2011 at 4:10 pm
(September 14, 2011 at 4:03 pm)bozo Wrote: It has a history in racist terms. I'm not surprised you didn't immediately grasp the connection, because its popularity as a " harmless toy " has wained over the decades since racism was more in-your-face than it is today.
So? The Swastika was appropriated by the Nazis and now holds (even more) meaning as a "Racist symbol".
And yet both are still used, like the sauvastika in "Blade of the Immortal"
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Guilt by association is such a tired trope, bozo.
Though it does stand to state that for Blade of the Immortal, on each English tankoubon, there is a brief cover-your-ass explanation of the differences between swastika and sauvastika (mirror versions of each other).
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RE: A leopard can't change its spots.
September 14, 2011 at 4:16 pm
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I'll go with "racist."
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RE: A leopard can't change its spots.
September 14, 2011 at 4:42 pm
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(September 14, 2011 at 4:03 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: (September 14, 2011 at 3:56 pm)bozo Wrote: I'm very old but I can still just about spot inaccuracies in putting a sentence together.
And yet you cannot differentiate between "charge" as in "being charged by the courts" (legal terminology) and "charge" as in "people charge that so-an-so doesn't care about blacks" (not legal terminology, but colloquial).
I know what he wrote and I know what he meant.
(September 14, 2011 at 4:10 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: (September 14, 2011 at 4:03 pm)bozo Wrote: It has a history in racist terms. I'm not surprised you didn't immediately grasp the connection, because its popularity as a " harmless toy " has wained over the decades since racism was more in-your-face than it is today.
So? The Swastika was appropriated by the Nazis and now holds (even more) meaning as a "Racist symbol".
And yet both are still used, like the sauvastika in "Blade of the Immortal"
Guilt by association is such a tired trope, bozo.
Though it does stand to state that for Blade of the Immortal, on each English tankoubon, there is a brief cover-your-ass explanation of the differences between swastika and sauvastika (mirror versions of each other).
Look it's quite simple, the woman has been charged. Her case will be heard. A verdict will be returned. Either she will be found guilty of racial harassment or not. If she had displayed a teddy bear in her window she wouldn't be facing a charge. Do you understand?
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RE: A leopard can't change its spots.
September 14, 2011 at 4:51 pm
(September 14, 2011 at 4:42 pm)bozo Wrote: Look it's quite simple, the woman has been charged. Her case will be heard. A verdict will be returned. Either she will be found guilty of racial harassment or not. If she had displayed a teddy bear in her window she wouldn't be facing a charge. Do you understand?
And what if she had named the teddy bear "Mohammad"? Hmm? Do we start trying people for the names of their pets? What if they display them publicly?
Here, let me fix it for you, Sudan-style (sizzle!):
(September 14, 2011 at 4:42 pm)بوزو Wrote: Look it's quite simple, the woman has been charged. Her case will be heard. A verdict will be returned. Either she will be found guilty of racial harassment blasphemy or not. If she had displayed a teddy bear gollywog in her window she wouldn't be facing a charge. Do you understand?
By the way 'بوزو' is bozo in Arabic. 
I understand there is more in common with the No-Blasphemy Law folk and you than you give credit for.
A measure of free speech is not when you like it, but when it is offensive. As that sets the bounds.
Of course, (some of) you Brits like authoritarianism. Hell, you guys even have a defined racist party with fascist leanings and proclivities (BNP). So I suppose there's no accounting for taste.
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RE: A leopard can't change its spots.
September 14, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Moros, I'm not playing your what if game.
The case is happening right now, in ENGLAND, with a golliwog ( name unknown ) at its core.
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RE: A leopard can't change its spots.
September 14, 2011 at 5:01 pm
You started the what-ifs, not me. I even emboldened it to illustrate such.
Sure, you're free to say what you want, but please don't pull a Diamond Deist when someone else calls you on your bullshit.
And I'm not certain as to how the temporal nature of this case have anything to do with the validity of such in the first place.
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RE: A leopard can't change its spots.
September 14, 2011 at 5:03 pm
http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/golliwog/
Good info. Never heard of them here in the US, but I have heard of Little Black Sambo... running round the tigers, dance sambo dance!
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RE: A leopard can't change its spots.
September 14, 2011 at 5:10 pm
We need to stop living in such a namby pandy culture of being overly PC about everything. If the woman wants to display a fucking doll in her window she should be allowed to. Anyone offended should think it's their own bloody fault for being a nosy bastard and staring into somebody's windows.
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