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God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?
#61
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?
It's well within sanity to state that "we don't know". You believe that you know, but believing and knowing are not directly equivalent. Not in common usage, not in definition, not in any way whatsoever, period.

God is by no means a simpler idea than descent with modification. The god concept doesn't even show up as a blip on the radar of simplicity.

There are claims as to what god has given us, and of course claims as to which god gave us exactly what. Claims. Nothing more, unless you have evidence?

Any part of the visible world is proof of the visible world, not faeries. The entirety of the visible world is again proof of the same, and again, not faeries. Everything answers are nothing answers.

If we have evidence of the universe's beginning, it is evidence only of that. It does not extend to "goddidit" unless you have evidence for the existence of god. Your if is showing.

Actually, the "only way a naturalistic origin is plausible" is by realizing that this sort of origin is exactly what has happened here, unless you have evidence that would suggest otherwise? A creator is not yet required to deal with this one universe, why then would he be more necessary to account for more than one? Honestly, just give some evidence for fine tuning or stop talking about it, it's embarrassing.

Evidence of a creator, communication from said creator, the lack of limits to his abilities? You'll have to forgive me if I fail to see the value of a practical application of christianity in my life (especially considering the way in which christians cavort around this website making their entire faith look like complete morons).









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#62
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?
DOESN'T UNDERSTAND CAUSALITY OR EVIDENCE ALERT!!!

Whew, sorry about that. Your post set off my in built alarm. Here we go again:

You can't use a Bible verse to prove the existence of God. We doubt the authenticity of the Bible. You haven't proven the 'evidence' that is all around us was made by God. It's what's known as a circular argument. If you want to see how puerile and idiotic this line of thinking is, take God out of the premise and replace it with ANYTHING ELSE, like this:

'I know Allah exists because it says in this book I have that we've all seen him at work, and the evidence for Allah's existence is therefore all around you'

Do you believe the statement I just made?
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#63
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#64
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?
'If God exists, everything in existence is evidence for the existence of God'

And the proof of God's existence is....

Once again, use the example I gave. Substitute your God for another one. Or substitute him for anything else. Does the logic still hold up?
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#65
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#66
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#67
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?
I can say that you're a fucking loony, though, and your posts are the evidence.
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#68
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?
May the Lord bless you with faith and a repentant heart.

(September 27, 2011 at 1:47 am)Epimethean Wrote: I can say that you're a fucking loony, though, and your posts are the evidence.

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#69
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May reality land upon you with the weight of sanity and the burden of clear understanding.
Trying to update my sig ...
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#70
RE: God: Misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial?
(September 27, 2011 at 2:07 am)lucent Wrote: May the Lord bless you with faith and a repentant heart.

Intellectual rigor and a genuine regard for the truth has smitten your lord and blessed us with an firm heart befitting of an undeluded brain.

Your lord won't be blessing anything excepting in crazed imaginings of your bible addled mind.
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