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RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 17, 2011 at 8:56 am
You haven't given us any rational arguments either Frodo. As is it's no argument, no physical evidence. I remain predictably unconvinced.
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RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 17, 2011 at 9:45 am
Indeed, claims that have no 'real' evidence should be ignored. If it can't be demonstrated or backed up by publicly verifiable evidence then it should be rejected as complete nonsense and given no further consideration.
If it's true that the god claim cannot be backed up by anything, then an atheist I shall always remain.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 17, 2011 at 5:51 pm
oof - mind fuck right there!
Hey R... up until now you've been refusing to consider said evidence. Now suddenly you've not seen any. Is that 2 kinds of blindness you have going on. It wouldn't surprise me. But guess what... I'm still not going for the bait.
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RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 17, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Aside from allegorical comparisons, what real evidence did you provide? If it is there, just set it out with bullet points.
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RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 22, 2011 at 9:42 am
(October 11, 2011 at 9:32 am)sonofodin Wrote: Because of the ambiguous nature of the word "god", atheists assume far too much and hold an illogical standpoint.
Firstly, atheism is the lack of belief in a god or gods.
Since the word "god" means so many things to so many people (some think "god" is the universe, some think "god" is an alien lifeform, some think "god" is supernatural)
Therefore, describing your belief system with a word that has so many meaning is just logically incoherent.
Okay, so let's take it a step further. Let's say atheists define "god" as divine, a being that transcends space and time, a being that is supernatural.
This is what most people think of when they think of "god", a supernatural being that is omnipotent(All powerful) omniscient(All knowing), omnipresent(everywhere at once).
The problem with this is,the word supernatural is and always will be meaningless.
Something that is "supernatural" is beyond conceptualization and cannot be observed within reality. If we could observe or conceptualize a "supernatural god" it would no longer be supernatural. Humans can only perceive and conceptualize that which we know. Something that is supernatural is simply beyond perception and rational thought.
Unless you define god as an alien being(not supernatural) that exists in nature, atheism is logically incoherent.
Sorry, dude, theological noncognitivists are a subset of atheists.
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RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 22, 2011 at 10:44 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2011 at 10:45 pm by Lehrling.)
(October 17, 2011 at 5:51 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: oof - mind fuck right there!
Hey R... up until now you've been refusing to consider said evidence. Now suddenly you've not seen any. Is that 2 kinds of blindness you have going on. It wouldn't surprise me. But guess what... I'm still not going for the bait.
"Yeah, how fiendish those atheists are! Them and their BAIT!
We won't fall for the old trick of demanding evidence for our bald assertions, eh fr0d0??
We're smarter than that!
Them atheists should know that our particular viewpoint is SOLELY excepted from the burden of verifiable proof!
Stupid atheists...it should be obvious that the FSM exists....you want proof? Well, it's obvious, see. You're just too blind to see it.
You want me to show you what you are too blind to see? I've already shown it! Can't you see it? I've already proven that the FSM exists by asserting that the atheists are just too blind to see the proof that I just gave.
Wait, you want me to bullet the points? You've already shown that you can't see them, so why should I go through the trouble??"
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RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 22, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Cast off the FSM, follow Ceiling Cat! I have irrefutable proof of His existence:
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At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 22, 2011 at 11:54 pm
(October 22, 2011 at 11:14 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Cast off the FSM, follow Ceiling Cat! I have irrefutable proof of His existence:
The FSM encourages us to accept things without evidence. Your facts are useless against us.
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RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 23, 2011 at 5:16 am
Amazing how after a week, Lehrling has reached the same conclusion that I did after about the same amount of time regarding fr0d0. Incredible.
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RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 23, 2011 at 4:43 pm
(October 23, 2011 at 5:16 am)ElDinero Wrote: Amazing how after a week, Lehrling has reached the same conclusion that I did after about the same amount of time regarding fr0d0. Incredible.
What can I say? I exist to spot BS.
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