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RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 1:36 am
"Dear Phaedra, don't try and get specific while I'm bullshitting you about the specifics, I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about."
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 1:40 am
You didn't even use the Tricorder!
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RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 1:44 am
(October 17, 2011 at 1:32 am)Epimethean Wrote: Fact are unlikely to ever prove the existence of a god. There's an issue of mutual incompatibilities there somewhere.
You are free to believe what ever you like. I suggest you look at nature, the world, science, ...etc. to come to a conclusion.
Just don't COMPLETELY ignore the concept of God. You may have been influenced by growing up in a religious community/environment, where those who believe in God behave in "Ungodly" manners. Don't let that be an excuse for you to ignore God. Actually sit down and read and study more. You'll come to a conclusion.
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RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 1:44 am
I have no fucking idea what you are talking about. I am well-aware that Islam is not a religion for poor people in the Middle East. I have no problem with you being a Muslim, and I respect your right to follow whichever religion you choose. This isn't about Islam-bashing. I simply informing you know that one can appreciate and love nature and see it's patterns without believing in a deity. I am also letting you know that I am not convinced by your argument that patterns in nature prove god's existence. That's all.
That will never hold up in court...
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RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 1:44 am
(October 17, 2011 at 1:27 am)ruhollah Wrote: We believe that God is the entity at infinity.
Do you know what infinity is? No matter how far you go or how long you wait, you will never get to the end. Your god cannot be infinite in nature or have been around for an infinite time or be everywhere in an infinite void. Your god must therefore be bound and limited. If there can be one god, then there can be two gods or an infinite number of gods.
Which one do you worship.
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RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 1:45 am
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2011 at 1:46 am by Epimethean.)
"Actually sit down and read and study more. You'll come to a conclusion."
Er, did that years ago, which is why I am here, on an atheist site.
Why are you here?
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RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 1:46 am
(October 17, 2011 at 1:36 am)Rhythm Wrote: "Dear Phaedra, don't try and get specific while I'm bullshitting you about the specifics, I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about."
You set a great example for atheists, don't you?
Please keep your foul language to a minimum. Such atrocious language doesn't belong in this thread.
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RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 1:47 am
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2011 at 1:48 am by The Grand Nudger.)
We'll just have to come to a conclusion. 
I find any praise for allah offensive and atrocious. So what. Cry me a river. You're a big boy, I think you can deal.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 1:48 am
(October 17, 2011 at 1:44 am)ruhollah Wrote: Just don't COMPLETELY ignore the concept of God. You may have been influenced by growing up in a religious community/environment, where those who believe in God behave in "Ungodly" manners. Don't let that be an excuse for you to ignore God. Actually sit down and read and study more. You'll come to a conclusion.
Why do you assume that the reason we are atheists is because we don't like the behavior of certain theists?
That will never hold up in court...
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RE: Zakir Naik, Muslim Idiot.
October 17, 2011 at 1:52 am
(October 17, 2011 at 1:44 am)Phaedra Wrote: I have no fucking idea what you are talking about. I am well-aware that Islam is not a religion for poor people in the Middle East. I have no problem with you being a Muslim, and I respect your right to follow whichever religion you choose. This isn't about Islam-bashing. I simply informing you know that one can appreciate and love nature and see it's patterns without believing in a deity. I am also letting you know that I am not convinced by your argument that patterns in nature prove god's existence. That's all.
Like I said, an hour you try to bring up the evolution thing for this debate. And it back-fired. It sounds to me you haven't really read anything substantial about the religion. You probably listen to media and/or second-hand sources to make up your conclusions. You'll learn more if you truly put the effort and read about it first hand.
Sure you can enjoy nature without believing in God, but you can enjoy it a lot more if you understand what is behind it all.
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