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RE: Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?
October 24, 2011 at 11:39 am
Gorgeous though isn't it?
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RE: Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?
October 24, 2011 at 11:50 am
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(October 24, 2011 at 11:19 am)CoxRox Wrote: I thought that a topic which deals with a real astronomical event, would be of interest to some people on here. I know that any 'religious' significance to such an event is a laughable matter amoungst athesits and non Christians. I get that. I am trying to demonstrate that the reference to a star in the Bible, that sounded far fetched and mythical, could well be explained by science and therefore, this 'star' has a plausible explanation, even if it has NO religious significance to most people on here. What I can't hack any more, is people coming onto this thread to tell me how silly I am, people who probably aren't one bit interested in this thread or what it is about. It's just an excuse to vent more hostility toward the gullible Christian. When you dread coming on here to find more hosility, and your stomach is churning, then I think it's probably time for you to call it a day. I'm too sensitive a person to come up against such negativity all the time. I'm messaging Stimbo regarding his findings, and may take a week or two to check his stuff out. I'll reply to Stimbo on here, once I've determined the low down on this astronomical event, just in case anyone is interested to know more about this and then I'll call it a day.
So basically you're posting things you know we'll find ridiculous, but expect to be exempt from ridicule anyway? Everyone who has replied has been interested in this to one degree or another, mostly to explain to you how unremarkable this theory is.
You're right about two things, you're gullible and too sensitive. Are you going to post a new leaving thread or just update the last one you made?
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RE: Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?
October 24, 2011 at 11:53 am
Yeah - the sky is beautiful. Of course, we all know that THIS is what the superstitious really think happened!
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RE: Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?
October 24, 2011 at 12:10 pm
If you think an astronomical event is extraordinary, we have a subforum for that. The fact that you posted it in the religion subforum must mean you think it has something of significance or relation to religion, and we've just set about saying it hasn't/disproving it has any relation thus far to anything other than the normal course of astrological events.
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RE: Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?
October 24, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Quote:The fact that you posted it in the religion subforum must mean you think it has something of significance or relation to religion
Gee, Summer...even I think she has made that pretty clear!
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RE: Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?
October 24, 2011 at 1:29 pm
(October 24, 2011 at 12:10 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: If you think an astronomical event is extraordinary, we have a subforum for that. The fact that you posted it in the religion subforum must mean you think it has something of significance or relation to religion, and we've just set about saying it hasn't/disproving it has any relation thus far to anything other than the normal course of astrological events.
I know that anything I post on here that has anything to do with Christianity is going to be mocked or disagreed with. I know that and expect it. It's one thing to agree to disagree and I can put up with some mocking, but I just can't tolerate so much mockery and hostility. I've had some good debates on here and I know that if we met in person, our discussions would no doubt be friendlier. I wish you all the best. You're all too feisty for me. 
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RE: Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?
October 25, 2011 at 10:11 pm
I think it's not really a question of hostility and mockery, though you really should expect that there's likely to be an element of that anyway, in any public arena. Disagreement, now that's another matter. It also has a lot to do with the tone of whatever's being claimed: if I was to come in here and say "Hey guys, last night I saw a strange flashing light in the sky it didn't appear to be an ordinary aircraft but I have no idea what it was", I'd expect to attract a different response than if I said "Hey guys, I saw a flying saucer last night! It's a wonder I wasn't abducted and gang-probed or something!"
Not to set any of us up as authority figures or anything, though I would consider certain of our number as experts in their field, but places like this are similar to the "peer review" stage of the scientific process. Claims get dissected, analysed, shredded even, until every particle has been exposed as either true or false. That's SOP. Not just here and in the scientific arena, but in our courts as well. Somehow I can't imagine Stephen Hawking announcing, say, some new discovery about black holes and then complaining that no-one's taking him just at his word, they all just want to check his data and repeat his experiments and such.
That's why I welcome your wanting to check my Beth Star analysis yourself; I'd really benefit from any feedback, good or bad. Just as long as the experts you are relying on for this are reputable, and preferably have no vested interest in promoting the very thing that's in question. I suggested Phil Plait to you as a good source, though I can't speak for him as to whether he'll reply to you or anyone. Worth a try though.
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RE: Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?
October 26, 2011 at 2:03 am
Another one who can't stand the heat.
She can pray to ole jesus and report her failure. Maybe he'll give her a pass?
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RE: Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?
October 26, 2011 at 2:04 am
More than likely Jesus will not.
Anyone who can create an eternal flaming torture chamber called "Hell" should not be trusted with his promises.
..just saying...
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RE: Was the star of Bethlehem a real astronomical event?
October 26, 2011 at 5:56 am
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