UK STRIKE DAY 30TH NOVEMBER

[5thHorseman]

SUCH A BUNCH A BITCHES

[reverendjeremiah]

There was nothing smug about what I wrote. I honestly thought you were being a man and owning up to some of the blame. Now I understand that you were simply saying whatever you thought would get me to drop the subject. I find this behaviour repulsive.

People apologise because they have something to apologise for; they have something to feel sorry about, and want to rectify it. People apologise because it is the right thing to do. People who apologise just to "stop the fucking arguing" aren't doing it right.

You can drop it if you want; I've done nothing wrong towards you that merits an apology; all of my wrongs were aimed at bozo, and I've apologised for them. I'm not going to drop it; as far as I'm concerned, you wronged me, and then when I finally got an apology and said it was "gracious" of you, you turned around and explained how it wasn't an apology after all.

Now you question my manhood right after saying that you werent smug?

Your response to my apology was smug. Just like your apology to him was forced. If it wasnt forced I honestly believe you would not have done so...and in no way would I question your man hood about such a thing regardless.

And I DID mean that I might have been wrong in reading your posts, but your smugness has made me think otherwise.

Then i turned around and SHOWED you the definition of apology and that I DID apologize according to it...and then I offered up a way for us all to get out of the argument by admitting I may have been wrong...your smugness ruined that and yet we are STILL arguing over it.

I am no longer responding to this part of the thread.

[Tiberius]

I think you need to look up the meaning of the word "smug".

My response to your "apology" was to say you were gracious. I then clarified some of my previous statements, since you'd just admitted to misunderstanding them.

My apology was not forced; I retracted my statement calling him a borderline fascist, and I made attempts at trying to bring the discussion back to where it started. I'd have thought that would have been proof enough that I was apologetic, but bozo said he didn't think I was, so I made sure to put my apology in writing. At no point did bozo demand my apology; I offered it to him freely, and requested his in return.

The fact still remains that you made an apology, said you might have been wrong, admitted that you were partially to blame (by saying you misunderstood my posts). I said it was gracious of you to do such a thing, and instead of leaving it there, you suddenly out of the blue decide that what you said wasn't what you meant after all. You also admitted to saying it just to get me to drop the subject.

Now you're arguing about the semantics of what an apology is. It's quite simple rev, an apology is something you say when you are truly sorry about the things you've said / done. I feel sorry for what I said to bozo, so I apologised. You on the other hand, don't apparently feel sorry for saying I advocate the killing of children.

[bozo]

I think you need to look up the meaning of the word "smug".

My response to your "apology" was to say you were gracious. I then clarified some of my previous statements, since you'd just admitted to misunderstanding them.

My apology was not forced; I retracted my statement calling him a borderline fascist, and I made attempts at trying to bring the discussion back to where it started. I'd have thought that would have been proof enough that I was apologetic, but bozo said he didn't think I was, so I made sure to put my apology in writing. At no point did bozo demand my apology; I offered it to him freely, and requested his in return.

The fact still remains that you made an apology, said you might have been wrong, admitted that you were partially to blame (by saying you misunderstood my posts). I said it was gracious of you to do such a thing, and instead of leaving it there, you suddenly out of the blue decide that what you said wasn't what you meant after all. You also admitted to saying it just to get me to drop the subject.

Now you're arguing about the semantics of what an apology is. It's quite simple rev, an apology is something you say when you are truly sorry about the things you've said / done. I feel sorry for what I said to bozo, so I apologised. You on the other hand, don't apparently feel sorry for saying I advocate the killing of children.

I have looked back from the beginning of this thread and the trouble between you and I started with me not instantly getting a joke post ( if you remember I did ask if it was a wind up ).
It has been all trading insults from that point.
I accept your apologies tendered but I am struggling to understand what you want me to apologise for. I truthfully cannot apologise for whatever suspicions of you I hold, nor can I for raising a pertinent one in a thread where you raised the " golliwog-in-the-window " case and accused me of favouring censorship when the issue was protection of the individual under the law of the land.
If calling you an arsehole has upset you, then I apologise .
Apart from that, what are you asking of me?

[reverendjeremiah]

I think you need to look up the meaning of the word "smug".

My response to your "apology" was to say you were gracious. I then clarified some of my previous statements, since you'd just admitted to misunderstanding them.

My apology was not forced; I retracted my statement calling him a borderline fascist, and I made attempts at trying to bring the discussion back to where it started. I'd have thought that would have been proof enough that I was apologetic, but bozo said he didn't think I was, so I made sure to put my apology in writing. At no point did bozo demand my apology; I offered it to him freely, and requested his in return.

The fact still remains that you made an apology, said you might have been wrong, admitted that you were partially to blame (by saying you misunderstood my posts). I said it was gracious of you to do such a thing, and instead of leaving it there, you suddenly out of the blue decide that what you said wasn't what you meant after all. You also admitted to saying it just to get me to drop the subject.

Now you're arguing about the semantics of what an apology is. It's quite simple rev, an apology is something you say when you are truly sorry about the things you've said / done. I feel sorry for what I said to bozo, so I apologised. You on the other hand, don't apparently feel sorry for saying I advocate the killing of children.

Smug = highly self-satisfied

Yup, that was you.

Me, I was the opposite. I apologized AND tried to give you a way out of this agrivating shit heap of an off topic mess by saying it was obviously my fault.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-9655-pos...#pid210879

It STILL wasnt good enough for you. You STILL had to argue it..and now you want to smear my face into this shit. Its not enough that I apologized (and it was honest) and was even willing to put all the blame on myself just to STOP the fucking madness...but no... you want to put your fucking foot on my back and shove a flag up my arse hole and beat your chest over me.

Get over it...this entire side discussion on this thread sucks shit from an aids infected donkey dick and we are looking like a bunch of bitches right now in front of everyone on this forum.

[Tiberius]

If calling you an arsehole has upset you, then I apologise .

Thanks. That's all I wanted.

Smug = highly self-satisfied

Yup, that was you.

I haven't been satisfied with anyone's behaviour in this thread, including my own. That was why I apologised to bozo.

Me, I was the opposite. I apologized AND tried to give you a way out of this agrivating shit heap of an off topic mess by saying it was obviously my fault.

Again with the contradictions. You can't admit it was partially (or even fully) your fault and then when I agree with you, say this:

"So now some of the blame is on me? I was just letting it go."

Which is it? Is some of the blame on you, or were you just letting it go? You've said twice now that it was obviously your fault, and yet when I said you were gracious for admitting that, you completely reverse your position.

It STILL wasnt good enough for you. You STILL had to argue it..and now you want to smear my face into this shit. Its not enough that I apologized (and it was honest) and was even willing to put all the blame on myself just to STOP the fucking madness...but no... you want to put your fucking foot on my back and shove a flag up my arse hole and beat your chest over me.

Let's look at what I actually said shall we? I said:

"I'm not going to respond to everything he said in his last post, but I thought these specific parts required some clarification." (bolding for emphasis)

All I did after that was clarify three different things: (1) my use of the word "you" instead of "I" whilst explaining what I would do instead of having a pension. (2) a comment on the differences between our respective countries in regards to the right-wing. (3) the times when I made some statement as to what I would do to the government if I could, as opposed to what I would do personally to my own retirement plans.

If you wish to re-read that post, it is here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-9655-pos...#pid210890

After I clarified those three things, I even said "I hope that clears up any confusion that was remaining." The entire purpose of my posting the clarifications was because you had said you had misunderstood what I meant. There was no shoving a flag up your arse hole, nor any chest beating; I was merely trying to remove any confusion.

Get over it...this entire side discussion on this thread sucks shit from an aids infected donkey dick and we are looking like a bunch of bitches right now in front of everyone on this forum.

I was perfectly fine getting over it when you originally apologised. You were the one who brought it up again, when you decided that none of the blame was on you, even though you'd just admitted it was a mistake on your behalf, and have subsequently said (in your post above) that it was obviously your fault.

Besides, you've already said you weren't going to respond to me anymore, yet you just did. I'd stop responding to you, but every time you make a post, you paint me in a bad light again, and I have to defend myself. I won't back down whilst you are still out there, calling me smug or saying that I'm beating my chest, when all I've done since you apologised is voice my confusion over your acceptance of the apology, and your continual contradiction over whether or not you share some of the blame.

[reverendjeremiah]

I am tired of the politics on this page. I am tired of people requesting emails and PM's of me since 7 pages ago.

I tried to bow out and let it go, but Adrian REFUSES to do it.

I even tried to give him a chance to just shine, all he had to do was stop posting.

...he didnt do it...

Im done with this thread.

[Tiberius]

Of course I refuse to do it. I refuse to do it whilst you continue to be disingenuous and reverse your position, as well as attacking me again and again.

Painting yourself as the bigger man here isn't going to work. Anyone can read this thread and see that after I called you "gracious" and accepted your apology, you decided to keep on attacking me, including your continual indecisiveness on whether or not you were at fault. If you don't consider yourself at fault anywhere, then your apology is meaningless.