RE: Evolution and Creationism
March 20, 2016 at 10:18 pm
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2016 at 10:19 pm by Whateverist.)
(March 20, 2016 at 5:51 pm)PerennialPhilosophy Wrote:(March 20, 2016 at 5:36 pm)RozKek Wrote: I honestly don't understand the "What does it say about consciousness that I can apply meaning to it?". Sorry I might be the problem in this case.We are a part of existence. The universe is and so are we. What makes it insignificant? What does it say about existence that we can have thoughts about meanings that do not exist? Just because everything is made of constituent parts, does not make the whole any less insignificant. Everything that exists is made up of smaller pieces and helps to form something bigger. If one thing is significant then everything is. I am assigning special meaning, it is something humans do. You are applying a special meaning when you say it is insignificant. That is what humans do.
When you say "We are made of the universe and we give it meaning." what do you mean when you say that we are made by the universe? Who is the universe? Do you imply the universe is a being/intelligent/a creator? And yes we do give it meaning, but like I said the meaning we give it is realistically literally insignificant and random. We are just chemical reactions/matter just like everything else, we are not (life isn't) in a miracilous way more special than our sun, the Andromeda Galaxy, a burning fire or cats. I am saying this because it seems like you are assigning a special meaning to the universe like I said earlier.
Okay lets go with that. You aren't making any claims regarding the actual meaning of things, just assigning them meaning along your own design right? That seems fine. Are you asking if anyone sees things the same way you do?
I guess you can say evolution is a bloody miracle the same way I think my little puppy is. He's perfect and so is evolution. Or did you mean to imply something supernatural when you used the word "miracle"? I'm not aware of anything that is actually supernatural so I'm quite disinclined to invent such a category simply to accommodate the god you seem on your way to deducing must exist.
But maybe I'm reading in way more than you intended. Apologies if that is the case and welcome in either case.