Prayer

[Drich]

And AGAIN if prayers is the opposite of begging for favors,

But is isn't, so...  

according to Christ and the singular example of what a prayer is and is not. A prayer is Not a wishing cermony. Paul again later defines that as petitioning God. According to Christ a prayer is about learning to accept God's will not changing it.

Oh, you mean - it's more like a magic spell? Or a super power? Or like summoning Captain Planet?

did you read the aforementioned first page post? or are you trying to cop out of the discussion by defaulting to trivializing the subject?

Yeah, sport - the day I care to read your tortured apologetics and your convoluted, ad hoc pseudo-explanations of magical sh*t, will be the day Jesus comes... all over your face, neck and chest.

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So no. You did not read the message yet you still think your thoughts on the subject count for anything...

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Prayer is not about God knowing, It is about us acknowledging, and a willingness to change.

So what about speaking in tongues? I've always considered that a kind of prayer, in the sense that it is communicating with god, but in a language only he, but not the speaker, understands. What's the point of that?

According to Paul It's pointless. Unless there is someone there to interpret the gift of tongues only edifies the one person.. While that is not a bad thing it does nothing to help anyone but the person doing it..

14 Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. 2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. 3 On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation. 4 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. 5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.

6 Now, brothers,[a] if I come to you speaking in tongues, how will I benefit you unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or teaching? 7 If even lifeless instruments, such as the flute or the harp, do not give distinct notes, how will anyone know what is played? 8 And if the bugle gives an indistinct sound, who will get ready for battle? 9 So with yourselves, if with your tongue you utter speech that is not intelligible, how will anyone know what is said? For you will be speaking into the air. 10 There are doubtless many different languages in the world, and none is without meaning, 11 but if I do not know the meaning of the language, I will be a foreigner to the speaker and the speaker a foreigner to me. 12 So with yourselves, since you are eager for manifestations of the Spirit, strive to excel in building up the church.