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Atheists= intelligent?
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
(October 29, 2008 at 9:04 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Well I would not agree that a high IQ = Atheism anymore than a low IQ = reli-fundie. I've read comments from some very dumb atheists and well thought out remarks from hardcore bibble bashers. Proof of that is abundant on Youtube comments.

Perhaps it's the anonimity that brings out the worst in people but I have seen some mind numbingly stupid remarks there.
I don't think religion is the main enemy but faith/irrational belief, I think atheists who claim they 100% KNOW that gods don't exist, and try to impose their non-belief on others by ranting on and on about it/insulting religious people, being unpleasant etc display some irrationality/"faith". This I believe to also be a problem of "faith" you just wouldn't call it faith. What I mean is, as it takes faith to believe in something there is no evidence for. It takes some faith however small to really "believe" that you 100% KNOW that God doesn't exist. When you can't know that scientifically.
I mean lets round it up/off a bit, I know that the existence of God is far far less probable than 1% chance of existence. But lets just hypothetically assume that the chance God exists is exactly 1% just for the sake of argument. Ok if there is a 99% chance God doesn't exist, and 1% he does, and you think its like this ( for example) that would be scientifcally correct. If however you actually claim to know that God 100% doesn't exist, when in all probability there is a 1% chance he doesn't, then 1% of you is kind of 'faith-based', we just don't/wouldn't call it that. What would you call that then? Well its certainly very irrational, atleast in my opinion to be so confident of something that you believe you 100% know it does or doesn't exist. It can case a lot of problems and I think believing you are 100% certain of something when you just can't be, is the very definition of fundamentalism, dogmatism. IMO atleast.
And I think this 1% (and in reality a lot less than 1%) of irrational belief/faith is actually perhaps quite a big difference from de-facto, scientific belief. Even though it might seem irrelevant. Because however small the difference, I think once you take something as gospel, as in you really believe you 100% KNOW something in absolute certainly, with zero doubt, whether its that something does or doesn't exist, it can cause a lot of problems/arguments/trouble and can be unscientific. And potentially very unscientific and even anti-scientific.
Thats how I understand it anyway.
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Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - September 20, 2008 at 4:35 am
RE: Atheists= intellegent? - by Darwinian - September 20, 2008 at 6:38 am
RE: Atheists= intellegent? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2008 at 7:04 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - September 21, 2008 at 4:03 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by lukec - September 22, 2008 at 1:40 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - September 22, 2008 at 7:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - September 22, 2008 at 10:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Alan - September 25, 2008 at 6:32 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Kyuuketsuki - October 27, 2008 at 6:32 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 27, 2008 at 7:01 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Kyuuketsuki - October 28, 2008 at 5:37 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2008 at 2:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by josef rosenkranz - October 24, 2008 at 2:15 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2008 at 4:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 8:09 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Bungy - October 24, 2008 at 7:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2008 at 9:18 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by ManofGOD - October 28, 2008 at 3:21 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 28, 2008 at 4:03 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2008 at 5:10 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 25, 2008 at 6:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 25, 2008 at 6:42 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - October 27, 2008 at 8:14 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 27, 2008 at 8:30 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2008 at 3:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 29, 2008 at 9:04 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2008 at 11:06 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 29, 2008 at 12:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2008 at 12:40 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 29, 2008 at 12:58 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2008 at 1:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by josef rosenkranz - October 30, 2008 at 2:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 30, 2008 at 6:42 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 12:15 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by josef rosenkranz - October 31, 2008 at 1:20 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 1:41 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 1:44 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 2:14 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 2:53 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 3:11 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 3:23 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 1:51 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 30, 2008 at 3:10 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 11:50 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 11:55 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:01 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 4:45 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 11:51 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 11:56 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 11:58 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:00 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:08 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 1:20 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:02 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:34 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:40 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:48 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:57 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 1:06 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 1:02 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 1:13 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 1:21 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 2:08 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Kyuuketsuki - February 25, 2009 at 8:13 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:06 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 3:11 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 3:30 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:17 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 4:29 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:52 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 5:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 4:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:56 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 4:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:01 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:19 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:38 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:43 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:58 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:03 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 6:05 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:09 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:13 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:18 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 6:18 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:19 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:24 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 6:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:27 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 6:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:31 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:33 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:37 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 6:41 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:46 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 6:56 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:43 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:52 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:04 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:09 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:13 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:39 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:42 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 10:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:33 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:45 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:46 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:48 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:49 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:53 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 10:43 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - February 25, 2009 at 6:30 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - February 25, 2009 at 6:59 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - February 27, 2009 at 5:45 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by padraic - February 26, 2009 at 9:27 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Tiberius - February 26, 2009 at 9:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by padraic - February 27, 2009 at 12:34 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Overmars - April 9, 2009 at 3:47 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - April 10, 2009 at 7:23 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Tiberius - April 10, 2009 at 12:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - April 10, 2009 at 9:40 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - April 12, 2009 at 12:58 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - April 13, 2009 at 7:44 am

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