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"Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
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"It's natural!"

Wikipedia article on Homosexual behaviour in other animals. (Posted already here, but this gives you an extra chance to click it, since you apparently have an issue clicking some links.)
Wikipedia list of animals displaying homosexual behaviour.
"Same-Sex Behavior Seen In Nearly All Animals, Review Finds" from Science Daily
"Same-sex behavior seen in nearly all animals" fromphys.org
"1,500 animal species practice homosexuality." ()
"Female mice 'can be turned lesbian by deleting gene'" ()
"Male-like sexual behavior of female mouse lacking fucose mutarotase" ()
"Sexual preference chemical found in mice" ()
"Molecular regulation of sexual preference revealed by genetic studies of 5-HT in the brains of male mice" ()
Gay animal show in Oslo. (BBC News)
[url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/05/19/homosexuality-common-in-wild-scientists-say/]"Homosexuality Common in the Wild, Scientists Say" (Fox News)
What? Even Fox News is ahead of you on this one? WTF?

GAY PENGUINS!
In New York. ()
In Germany, adopting baby penguins. Awwww. ()
In Germany again. This time failing to "go straight" ()
More on the New York Penguins.
More gay penguins in NYC!
In San Francisco

I also found this disturbing shit on Penguins during my search. Everyone can enjoy it.
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RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
I read the last link. So...we sayin' necrophilia is natural too?

Just asking academically, obviously...
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Hmmm... Mebbe! Tongue
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(August 22, 2013 at 12:09 am)Godschild Wrote: All you have said it's natural, it's natural you've given no reason why. Everyone else has said it's natural, well if it's natural BWS have you given it a try and where is your reasons, I've seen none from anyone. Genkaus wanted scriptures so I gave them and then ignored them, someone said the NT doesn't address this and BWS says that the Bible doesn't call it unnatural. Well those verses came from the NT and those verses deal with why I would vote against homosexual marriage. None of you bothered to read what I posted, so you see 'pineapple' it's not me who's ignorant. It is the bunch of you who demand something from me yet will not even take the time to read what I posted and you all call yourselves the smart ones, to me it appears you are the arrogant ones who will not look at the other side.

Did I now? IIRC what I wanted was non-scriptural evidence of homosexuality being unnatural. You are retreating so desperately that you can no longer even keep your facts straight. Not that you were any good at it before.

You claimed you'd consider homosexuality unnatural regardless of being a Christian. You've been given evidence as to why you'd be wrong. Which you've ignored.

You kept insisting that the LGBT community was pushing the marriage issue through popular vote and the Christian community was simply opposing it. You've been given evidence to the contrary. Which you've ignored.

You kept arguing that any and every issue should and is determinable by vote in your country. You were given evidence and arguments as to why that isn't and shouldn't be the case. Which you've ignored.

And we are the ones ignoring your arguments? Your self-imposed ignorance of our counter-arguments does not render them non-existent. This goes beyond ignorance. Ignorance can be excused if the ignoramus atleast attempts to rectify it. You on the other hand, prefer to live in ignorance, to wallow in it and revel in it.
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At this point, his ignorance has become negligence.
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I went and read all those sites, and yet none of them gave any proof to homosexuality in animals, all I seen was someone seen this or someone seen that. I would like to see another dog try and stick his willie in my male Rotties, I can tell you if that happened and the other dog was gay it wouldn't be for long, death has a way of remedying those things. How about one Grizzle trying the same thing with another, yeah boy, death on the mountain. Male and female penguins share egg sitting duties, no big deal there, males find abandoned eggs and get busy doing what comes natural. I'm sure explanations can be found for the others. One thing I noticed, none of those who said they observed these things gave any video evidence, just a bunch of jabber.
Now for argument sake let's say it's true, these animals that would be gay can not reproduce and since this is a truth, well they can not reproduce and pass on the genetics to produce more gays. So if evolution was true then this would eventually eliminate the genetics that would cause such behavior. Mating of animals has one natural purpose to continue the species, if the purpose alters from that it would be unnatural, enough gays and the species is doomed, again end of the gays in that species with the removal of that species from the planet. Seems this is quite unnatural.

@ BWS, abomination Hebrew: towebah or toebah: something disgusting, an abhorrence.
Hebrew: pigguwl or piggul: to stink, unclean.
Hebrew: shaqats or sheqets: to loath, pollute, detest utterly, to be filthy.
Hebrew: baash: to be offensive, be abhorred, loathsome, stink utterly.
Hebrew: shiqquwts or shiqquts: disgusting, abominable filth, detestable.
I'm sure you want see this a meaning unnatural when applied to gay sex, but then that doesn't really mean it doesn't, for me it means unnatural as applied to gay sex.
Just to remind you, that you are wrong about gay sex in the NT.
Romans 1:26 ... For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27) the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Here's why I would vote against gay marriage, Romans 1:32) "Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them." To give approval would mean I'm guilty of the same and that means death, spiritual death, many Christians are in for a huge surprise and then disappointment. These verses are a confirmation of what I believed before I was a Christian.
Romans 2:14 "For when Gentiles, ie. all non Jews, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law." This shows how those who have not heard about Christ will be judged, notice the bold in v. 14.

Smile GC

PS to BWS: I ran across your Patheos site, now I know where all those comments come from, shame on you for copying another's work without giving them the credit.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Check out GC having no fucking clue how genetics work, to the surprise of absolutely no one.
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You lack some serious reading comprehension skills, GC. Seriously. Fucking hell.
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I cringe every time I hear "if evolution were true" come out of a creationists mouth, because I know what follows is going to be some massively ignorant bullshit.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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GC, the only source was my own knowledge, so this Patheos site or whatever it's called that you came across was as unknown to me until you brought it up. Not only that, but I still have no idea what this site of yours is about, as you failed to provide the reference, mistakenly thinking that I already knew all about it. It seems your entire way of thinking is based off of presuppositions.
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