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Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity
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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity
(June 14, 2016 at 2:56 pm)Drich Wrote: If you want to blame God for the virus fine, but also acknowledge He has provided the cure.

God has to be proven as real, first.

The reality is that man created the virus called sin and conveniently created the cure through an imaginary being.

Makes absolute, logical sense.

No better way to control the masses than through their worst fears and best desires.
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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity
(June 20, 2016 at 1:40 am)Thena323 Wrote: An honest answer would be appreciated.

Oh dear.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity
(June 20, 2016 at 1:45 am)Maelstrom Wrote:
(June 14, 2016 at 2:56 pm)Drich Wrote: If you want to blame God for the virus fine, but also acknowledge He has provided the cure.

God has to be proven as real, first.

The reality is that man created the virus called sin and conveniently created the cure through an imaginary being.  

Makes absolute, logical sense.

No better way to control the masses than through their worst fears and best desires.
And Christians aren't doing a good job of showing that they've been cured of sin. If anything, today's Christian loves to say he's no different from anyone else. Can you tell me you've been cured while you're still coughing and wheezing?
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

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RE: Reduced to a Piece of Clay: False Humility and Human Dignity
(June 14, 2016 at 2:56 pm)Drich Wrote: If you want to blame God for the virus fine, but also acknowledge He has provided the cure.

Okay, but let's make the analogy a little more accurate, shall we? I notice you have a terrible time constructing adequate analogies.

So, let's say we have a doctor... let's just call him Dr. God, okay? And Dr. God has discovered a new type of virus, let's call it Sin. Dr. God insists that absolutely everyone in the world is infected with Sin, and that it's completely imperative that we all get the cure as fast as possible. What's the cure? Why, worshiping Dr. God, of course!

... Except that a lot of other scientists and medical dudes try to find the Sin virus, try to isolate it and find another, less transparently insane and egotistical cure, and they can't do it. They can't even identify symptoms of Sin because apparently there aren't any: people that are infected act within exactly the same statistical set that cured ones do, and manifest no outward signs of infection. So people go to Dr. God and they ask him, what are the symptoms of Sin? And Dr. God, all wise and beneficent, tells them that the symptoms are doing and thinking things that Dr. God doesn't approve of. The questioner blinks, feels a sinking feeling developing in the pit of his stomach, and asks if Sin is fatal. Oh yes, says Dr. God. Everyone infected with Sin will suffer the same fate.

And what is that fate, the questioner asks, looking sidelong for the nearest exit.

Dr. God will throw them into a furnace to burn forever, Dr. God replies, and then snaps in annoyance at the horror on his interlocutor's face: how dare you act like that? Dr. God has been so kind as to identify this new virus you're all definitely infected with, and has offered you a cure to avoid Dr. God throwing you into a furnace as a natural consequence of that virus! How can you possibly think that Dr. God is the bad guy? That's it, you're too full of Sin, you're dying from it, I can tell...

And Dr. God weeps, silently, to himself, as another poor victim of the virus succumbs to it, and is- somehow- thrown into a furnace. Truly, he is a merciful Dr. God, he thinks to himself, as he closes the furnace door on the poor man he just threw in there.

That's the problem, Drich: it's not a virus, it's not a naturally occurring thing. It's actually the violent act of an individual against all those with the temerity not to agree with him, and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that.
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