(July 31, 2015 at 9:03 am)lkingpinl Wrote:

(July 31, 2015 at 8:27 am)Little Rik Wrote: To me everything is God but we only see  (in things and creatures) that particular side of God that our consciousness allow us to see.
The more our consciousness get bigger the more we can see the real God.

Fair enough Rik.  Can you answer this question:

Quote:Science has essentially proven (there are some detractors) that the universe had a beginning and is not infinite.

I believe that the universe is not infinite.
I also believe that there got to be a lot of other dimensions in which other creature live according to their
degree of consciousness.
As far as having a beginning i don't think it has but i could be wrong.
Why would have a beginning?
Why a perfect thing like God would one day have changed his-her (God doesn't have sex) mind and decide to do something different?

Quote:If God is all things (including the universe), how did it come into existence?

Who came into existence?
God or the universe?

(July 31, 2015 at 9:51 am)Neimenovic Wrote:

This was all in the almost dying person's head, so how was it outside of a brain exactly?

Doctors declared that person-S dead not almost dead so if that dead person consciousness is alive and well
doesn't that means that the consciousness can be separated from the body? 

(July 31, 2015 at 10:06 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(July 31, 2015 at 9:51 am)Neimenovic Wrote:

This was all in the almost dying person's head, so how was it outside of a brain exactly?

Doctors declared that person-S dead not almost dead so if that dead person consciousness is alive and well
doesn't that means that the consciousness can be separated from the body? 

Death is by definition the permanent cessation of vital processes. If something comes back to life, it wasn't dead.

And again.....All in the person's head. Not outside of it.

(July 31, 2015 at 9:38 am)Little Rik Wrote: The brain is made of matter while the consciousness is something abstract.
The brain give energy to the consciousness so this consciousness can be active and think or do things.
It is like the vehicle that you drive.
Without the vehicle you could not proceed along this life.
That doesn't mean that the vehicle is you.
It is the driver that dictate what to do not the vehicle.
But don't worry Red.
Sooner or later this issue will be known to you.
As the old granny said........IS NEVER TOO LATE TO LEARN. 

More assertions. No proof. Show proof of your claims. Every time you're asked to do so, you just make more claims and maybe a stupid analogy. Show proof that consciousness can exist without brain matter or piss off.

Fucking Chopra-Chokers, man. So much woo.

(July 31, 2015 at 10:00 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(July 31, 2015 at 9:03 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Fair enough Rik.  Can you answer this question:




I believe that the universe is not infinite.
I also believe that there got to be a lot of other dimensions in which other creature live according to their
degree of consciousness.
As far as having a beginning i don't think it has but i could be wrong.
Why would have a beginning?
Why a perfect thing like God would one day have changed his-her (God doesn't have sex) mind and decide to do something different?




Who came into existence?
God or the universe?

Ok do you read what you write?  You contradict yourself at every turn.

You say you don't believe the universe is infinite.  Which means you believe it is finite (had a beginning and will have an end).  Then you state you don't believe it had a beginning.  WTF?

Further you state the God is all things.  This would include the universe (and everything in it).  But the universe is finite (though you seem unsure), so God came into existence.  How can something create itself?

(July 31, 2015 at 10:21 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Ok do you read what you write?  You contradict yourself at every turn.

You say you don't believe the universe is infinite.  Which means you believe it is finite (had a beginning and will have an end).  Then you state you don't believe it had a beginning.  WTF?

Further you state the God is all things.  This would include the universe (and everything in it).  But the universe is finite (though you seem unsure), so God came into existence.  How can something create itself?

You'd have better luck trying to organize a circle jerk in a quadriplegic ward than getting Rik to say anything that isn't contradictory and woo-laden.  It's his M.O.

(July 31, 2015 at 10:44 am)Crossless1 Wrote:

(July 31, 2015 at 10:21 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Ok do you read what you write?  You contradict yourself at every turn.

You say you don't believe the universe is infinite.  Which means you believe it is finite (had a beginning and will have an end).  Then you state you don't believe it had a beginning.  WTF?

Further you state the God is all things.  This would include the universe (and everything in it).  But the universe is finite (though you seem unsure), so God came into existence.  How can something create itself?

You'd have better luck trying to organize a circle jerk in a quadriplegic ward than getting Rik to say anything that isn't contradictory and woo-laden.  It's his M.O.

@lkingpinl

That you in the avatar? ^^

(July 31, 2015 at 2:04 pm)Alex K Wrote: @lkingpinl

That you in the avatar? ^^

Yes sir

(July 31, 2015 at 2:05 pm)lkingpinl Wrote:

(July 31, 2015 at 2:04 pm)Alex K Wrote: @lkingpinl

That you in the avatar? ^^

Yes sir

Nice, has a certain Andrew Scott meets Daniel Radcliffe quality