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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 16, 2015 at 12:48 pm
(August 16, 2015 at 12:41 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (August 16, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Yeah, that worked wonders for Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Dee Dee Ramone, Kurt Cobain...
You are aware that jimi hendirx did not commit suicide. He died of a medical mistake. Just wanted to point that out.
From Wikipedia:
Death, post-mortem, and burial
Although the details of Hendrix's last day and death are widely disputed, he spent much of September 17, 1970, in London with Monika Dannemann, the only witness to his final hours.[269] Dannemann said that she prepared a meal for them at her apartment in the Samarkand Hotel, 22 Lansdowne Crescent, Notting Hill, sometime around 11 p.m., when they shared a bottle of wine.[270] She drove Hendrix to the residence of an acquaintance at approximately 1:45 a.m., where he remained for about an hour before she picked him up and drove them back to her flat at 3 a.m.[271] Dannemann said they talked until around 7 a.m., when they went to sleep. She awoke around 11 a.m., and found Hendrix breathing, but unconscious and unresponsive. She called for an ambulance at 11:18 a.m.; they arrived on the scene at 11:27 a.m.[272] Paramedics then transported Hendrix to St Mary Abbot's Hospital where Dr. John Bannister pronounced him dead at 12:45 p.m. on September 18, 1970.[273]
To determine the cause of death, coroner Gavin Thurston ordered a post-mortem examination on Hendrix's body, which was performed on September 21 by Professor Robert Donald Teare, a forensic pathologist.[274] Thurston completed the inquest on September 28, and concluded that Hendrix aspirated his own vomit and died of asphyxia while intoxicated with barbiturates. [emphasis added][275] Citing "insufficient evidence of the circumstances", he declared an open verdict.[276] Dannemann later revealed that Hendrix had taken nine of her prescribed Vesparax sleeping tablets, 18 times the recommended dosage.[277]
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 16, 2015 at 12:53 pm
(August 16, 2015 at 12:48 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (August 16, 2015 at 12:41 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: You are aware that jimi hendirx did not commit suicide. He died of a medical mistake. Just wanted to point that out.
From Wikipedia:
Death, post-mortem, and burial
Although the details of Hendrix's last day and death are widely disputed, he spent much of September 17, 1970, in London with Monika Dannemann, the only witness to his final hours.[269] Dannemann said that she prepared a meal for them at her apartment in the Samarkand Hotel, 22 Lansdowne Crescent, Notting Hill, sometime around 11 p.m., when they shared a bottle of wine.[270] She drove Hendrix to the residence of an acquaintance at approximately 1:45 a.m., where he remained for about an hour before she picked him up and drove them back to her flat at 3 a.m.[271] Dannemann said they talked until around 7 a.m., when they went to sleep. She awoke around 11 a.m., and found Hendrix breathing, but unconscious and unresponsive. She called for an ambulance at 11:18 a.m.; they arrived on the scene at 11:27 a.m.[272] Paramedics then transported Hendrix to St Mary Abbot's Hospital where Dr. John Bannister pronounced him dead at 12:45 p.m. on September 18, 1970.[273]
To determine the cause of death, coroner Gavin Thurston ordered a post-mortem examination on Hendrix's body, which was performed on September 21 by Professor Robert Donald Teare, a forensic pathologist.[274] Thurston completed the inquest on September 28, and concluded that Hendrix aspirated his own vomit and died of asphyxia while intoxicated with barbiturates. [emphasis added][275] Citing "insufficient evidence of the circumstances", he declared an open verdict.[276] Dannemann later revealed that Hendrix had taken nine of her prescribed Vesparax sleeping tablets, 18 times the recommended dosage.[277]
One would hope that being in a hospital would mean that the medical staff would prevent one from drowning in one's own vomit, but that, it seems, is a vain hope.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 16, 2015 at 12:53 pm
(August 16, 2015 at 12:40 pm)IATIA Wrote: (August 16, 2015 at 12:37 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: As I have stated elsewhere in this forum, God is not interested in our happiness; He is interested in our holiness. If we are also happy in this life, that's a bonus.
Then what is the purpose of seeking "sustained happiness"?
It is a by-product, but you have to admit that it beats the alternative.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 16, 2015 at 12:57 pm
(August 16, 2015 at 12:48 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: ... Hendrix aspirated his own vomit and died of asphyxia while intoxicated with barbiturates. [emphasis added] ...
Which does not say he committed suicide. One can aspirate their own vomit during an influenza infection.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 16, 2015 at 1:17 pm
(August 16, 2015 at 12:09 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: The research points to the opposite of what you have just said
As in MAY? Maybe you could finally enlighten us about the meaning of the word MAY. I've capitalized it for your convenience. MAYbe that helps you understand the question a little bit better.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 16, 2015 at 1:32 pm
(August 15, 2015 at 11:13 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Question: What is the best way to achieve "sustained happiness"?
Not by being a christian obviously..
Look at the the nearly 100% of christians that choose to sin after they have accepted jesus into their heart and had a personal talk with the 100% pure goodness of jesus and god and with 100% certainty that god and jesus are watching then still choose to perform that next sin. The strength of emotion of the holy spirit can't dull the happiness that we seek in sin. Even the certain threat of hell and extreme torture forever doesn't seem to dull our craving for the happiness found in sin..
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 16, 2015 at 1:41 pm
(August 15, 2015 at 11:13 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Researchers at the London School of Economics and Erasmus University Medical Center in the Netherlands found that the secret to sustained happiness lies in participating in religious organizations. Of the four, participating in a religious organization was the [u]only social activity associated with sustained happiness[/u], researchers found.
Now, my question is: what if you get involved in a local church (3) that has an outreach to the poor and homeless in the local community (1 & 4) and offers Bible study classes (2)?
Seems to me you'd be so happy you could hardly stand it.
If I was ever going to participate in any kind of religious organisation I'd go for Wicca and join a coven. Christianity isn't the only religion out there.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 16, 2015 at 1:47 pm
(August 16, 2015 at 12:48 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (August 16, 2015 at 12:41 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: You are aware that jimi hendirx did not commit suicide. He died of a medical mistake. Just wanted to point that out.
From Wikipedia:
Death, post-mortem, and burial
Although the details of Hendrix's last day and death are widely disputed, he spent much of September 17, 1970, in London with Monika Dannemann, the only witness to his final hours.[269] Dannemann said that she prepared a meal for them at her apartment in the Samarkand Hotel, 22 Lansdowne Crescent, Notting Hill, sometime around 11 p.m., when they shared a bottle of wine.[270] She drove Hendrix to the residence of an acquaintance at approximately 1:45 a.m., where he remained for about an hour before she picked him up and drove them back to her flat at 3 a.m.[271] Dannemann said they talked until around 7 a.m., when they went to sleep. She awoke around 11 a.m., and found Hendrix breathing, but unconscious and unresponsive. She called for an ambulance at 11:18 a.m.; they arrived on the scene at 11:27 a.m.[272] Paramedics then transported Hendrix to St Mary Abbot's Hospital where Dr. John Bannister pronounced him dead at 12:45 p.m. on September 18, 1970.[273]
To determine the cause of death, coroner Gavin Thurston ordered a post-mortem examination on Hendrix's body, which was performed on September 21 by Professor Robert Donald Teare, a forensic pathologist.[274] Thurston completed the inquest on September 28, and concluded that Hendrix aspirated his own vomit and died of asphyxia while intoxicated with barbiturates. [emphasis added][275] Citing "insufficient evidence of the circumstances", he declared an open verdict.[276] Dannemann later revealed that Hendrix had taken nine of her prescribed Vesparax sleeping tablets, 18 times the recommended dosage.[277]
Randy not only are you citing wikipedia, but your citing a wikipedia article that cant even get his gender right.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 16, 2015 at 2:29 pm
(August 16, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (August 16, 2015 at 12:48 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: From Wikipedia:
Death, post-mortem, and burial
Although the details of Hendrix's last day and death are widely disputed, he spent much of September 17, 1970, in London with Monika Dannemann, the only witness to his final hours.[269] Dannemann said that she prepared a meal for them at her apartment in the Samarkand Hotel, 22 Lansdowne Crescent, Notting Hill, sometime around 11 p.m., when they shared a bottle of wine.[270] She drove Hendrix to the residence of an acquaintance at approximately 1:45 a.m., where he remained for about an hour before she picked him up and drove them back to her flat at 3 a.m.[271] Dannemann said they talked until around 7 a.m., when they went to sleep. She awoke around 11 a.m., and found Hendrix breathing, but unconscious and unresponsive. She called for an ambulance at 11:18 a.m.; they arrived on the scene at 11:27 a.m.[272] Paramedics then transported Hendrix to St Mary Abbot's Hospital where Dr. John Bannister pronounced him dead at 12:45 p.m. on September 18, 1970.[273]
To determine the cause of death, coroner Gavin Thurston ordered a post-mortem examination on Hendrix's body, which was performed on September 21 by Professor Robert Donald Teare, a forensic pathologist.[274] Thurston completed the inquest on September 28, and concluded that Hendrix aspirated his own vomit and died of asphyxia while intoxicated with barbiturates. [emphasis added][275] Citing "insufficient evidence of the circumstances", he declared an open verdict.[276] Dannemann later revealed that Hendrix had taken nine of her prescribed Vesparax sleeping tablets, 18 times the recommended dosage.[277]
Randy not only are you citing wikipedia, but your citing a wikipedia article that cant even get his gender right.
Jimi ingested nine of Monika's sleeping tablets...they were prescribed by her doctor, not his.
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