Not sure if this link has been posted yet. If you want to know just how bad Windows 10 is, have a read of this. It's a harrowing reminder of just how bad Microsoft is:
http://www.fsf.org/news/the-fsfs-stateme...windows-10

Too late.

I'll read that article later, thanks.

In the meanwhile, my thoughts on windows 10. Never used another OP so this seems to me like the best windows so far -as it should be, of course. There's a few problems with the apps though - and the browser. Microsoft Edge has a few problems, one of which being it doesn't support extensions, and that means no Adblock. So there's no way you can use it until they work that out. Also, the app for watching movies& TV is just plain bad. It doesn't seem to work with higher quality very well, it's interface is fucking stupid and doesn't even have a playlist and so on.

I can't try out COrtana yet since I don't have a mic for the moment. But I will. It sounds like fun.

Quote:Microsoft Edge has a few problems,

Firefox doesn't.

I predict Edge will soon replace Internet Explorer as:

(August 19, 2015 at 2:40 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Microsoft Edge has a few problems,

Firefox doesn't.

I predict Edge will soon replace Internet Explorer as:

Edge looks pretty awesome though. I give it far more points for that then I would to what I currently use and think best(Chrome/Torch). It's got some pretty awesome apps included too, from what I saw.

The problem I think windows 10 has is they rushed its development just so they could squeeze the benefits of the free deal ASAP - don't ask me how that works, I have no idea about economics. But I think it's as good a guess as any that this deal is going to work out well for them - or, at least, it's intended as such.

If and when they resolve the problems they have, I see no reason for why I wouldn't start using everything they throw at me. That includes the AV, though I can't exactly see that happening too soon, the one I'm currently using(Bitdefender) scores 100% on tests of performance and, I guess, reliability too if you take into account it's supremacy over the last few years...

I've had nothing but headaches with the two upgrades I've done so far.

My Surface Pro 3:
Upgraded from 8.1 to 10.
Huge problems with BitDefender that took a full day to fix.
Huge problems with Homegroup* that are still unresolved.

My mom's laptop:
Upgraded from 7 to 10.
All existing documents were suddenly read-only.
The Windows buttons on the taskbar (Start, Cortana, Battery, Notification Center, etc.) stopped working.  Required a fix in Powershell.
Huge problems with Homegroup* that are still unresolved.

Add to that a laughably inconsistent UI.

*Homegroup is the worst designed network sharing platform I've ever seen.  I've used it since Windows 7, but it's a bitch to get working properly.  Even worse, you can't tell it to remove old devices from the group.  So, my current group was created on a desktop I sold a couple years ago.  Homegroup still thinks it exists.  I can remove my current devices from that group, but not that device because I no longer have physical access to it.  And I can't create a new group because everything thinks the group that was started on my old desktop still exists, and you can't have multiple groups.

It's fucking idiotic across the board.  Piss poor design from the outset.  And, judging by my afternoon's online search for help, these issues have been known by Microsoft since Windows 7, and they don't give a shit.

The only fixes I've seen that might work involve shutting down 6 processes, erasing files from a particular Windows directory, and fucking around in the registry.  Which is bullshit.

So, I'm not very happy right now.  Microsoft needs to spend more time solidifying the guts of their OS than worrying about a flashy, if slapdash, UI.

(August 19, 2015 at 11:38 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: Edge looks pretty awesome though.

I'm not into winning a beauty contest with my operating system or my browser. Doing what I want them to do is more than sufficient.

(August 20, 2015 at 5:37 pm)abaris Wrote:

(August 19, 2015 at 11:38 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: Edge looks pretty awesome though.

I'm not into winning a beauty contest with my operating system or my browser. Doing what I want them to do is more than sufficient.

I meant its layout and stuff. It seemed incredibly comfortable to use - so to speak. Of course I agree with you though, that's exactly why I'm not using it at the moment and waiting for it to catch up in other departments with the other better browsers. Just because they're the best in one compartment doesn't mean I'll ignore what a mess it is otherwise.

Also, not sure how good windows is, really - I never used anything else. I'll have to try and change the OS though, just to see the difference. But for now, I can't say anything about that. The majority who did though seem to think Linux is better if you're not playing video games - if I got that right.

(August 20, 2015 at 4:50 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I've had nothing but headaches with the two upgrades I've done so far.

My Surface Pro 3:
Upgraded from 8.1 to 10.
Huge problems with BitDefender that took a full day to fix.
Huge problems with Homegroup* that are still unresolved.

My mom's laptop:
Upgraded from 7 to 10.
All existing documents were suddenly read-only.
The Windows buttons on the taskbar (Start, Cortana, Battery, Notification Center, etc.) stopped working.  Required a fix in Powershell.
Huge problems with Homegroup* that are still unresolved.

Add to that a laughably inconsistent UI.

*Homegroup is the worst designed network sharing platform I've ever seen.  I've used it since Windows 7, but it's a bitch to get working properly.  Even worse, you can't tell it to remove old devices from the group.  So, my current group was created on a desktop I sold a couple years ago.  Homegroup still thinks it exists.  I can remove my current devices from that group, but not that device because I no longer have physical access to it.  And I can't create a new group because everything thinks the group that was started on my old desktop still exists, and you can't have multiple groups.

It's fucking idiotic across the board.  Piss poor design from the outset.  And, judging by my afternoon's online search for help, these issues have been known by Microsoft since Windows 7, and they don't give a shit.

The only fixes I've seen that might work involve shutting down 6 processes, erasing files from a particular Windows directory, and fucking around in the registry.  Which is bullshit.

So, I'm not very happy right now.  Microsoft needs to spend more time solidifying the guts of their OS than worrying about a flashy, if slapdash, UI.

See.Told ya'll it isn't a good idea to upgrade.
Trust me guys,you will regret it eventually if you jump on the update so early.Microsoft needs more time to sort their shit.

I've had zero problems so far - in fact with 8.1 my new pc would shut down about once a week, so far that hasn't happened with 10. So yeah, looks good, works like a charm, smugsmugsmug