(October 1, 2015 at 7:41 pm)Losty Wrote:

(October 1, 2015 at 6:14 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Must be abstinent?

No, rocket. God created the infertile phases of a woman's cycle for a reason.

Please take a fucking biology class.

<insert legitimate rape joke here>

(October 1, 2015 at 6:07 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:

(September 30, 2015 at 9:31 am)dyresand Wrote: Women have right's get over it and besides you are a man were both guys we cannot dictate to women what to do with their bodies. 
That being said they have every right to get a abortion.

What about the rights of unborn women?

People have rights. No brain, no mind, no person, no problem. As a society we have never been in the business of giving rights to the concepts of people in future, except in the broad sense that we assume that the future will contain people.

(October 1, 2015 at 5:38 pm)MTL Wrote:

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(October 1, 2015 at 3:44 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: No, of course not. Celibate people just stew in their sexual frustrations, until they snap and do something drastic, like join a terrorist group, or a cult, go on a shooting spree, or rape a minor.

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Or become a priest.

That's what I said - rape a minor.

Here in the UK at least, being an "entertainer" seems to lead to the same fate, stereotypically

The development of an infant within one's womb reveals the reality of the said infant developing into a fully formed human being. The future does contain people; its not an assumption, but a fact.

(October 1, 2015 at 7:46 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(October 1, 2015 at 6:07 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: What about the rights of unborn women?

People have rights. No brain, no mind, no person, no problem. As a society we have never been in the business of giving rights to the concepts of people in future, except in the broad sense that we assume that the future will contain people.

What is a person? A person is simply an individual. All sentient lifeforms are individuals.

Who cares if the unborn don't have fully functional brains? They will develop their brains, and the other functions, in time. Fetuses are still fundamentally human: they have the human nature, appearance, etc. They therefore should be treated as such.

It does not matter if the fetus lacks the capacity to think (brain). We know in certainty that it has the human nature, and that it will fully develop in a matter of months, so we might as well treat it as human.



  http://www.abortionfacts.com/facts/2 Every human being is a person.

"Age, size, IQ, or stage of development are simply differences in degree, not in kind."

"If personhood is determined by one's current capacities, then someone who is unconscious or could be killed because he is not demonstrating superior intellect and skills. “But give the man time and he'll be able to function as a person.” Give the baby time and so will she."

"Age, size, IQ, or stage of development are simply differences in degree, not in kind. Our kind is humanity. We are people—human beings. We possess certain skills to differing degrees at different stages of development. When we reach maturation, there are many different degrees of skills and levels of IQ. But none of these make some people better or more human than others. None make some qualified to live and others unqualified."


Since the fetus is a human being, it naturally has access to human rights, despite its facilitates not being fully developed.

(October 1, 2015 at 2:02 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: And if you have already voluntarily used your body in a way known to create life and a life is created then what?

Then it is that person's choice what to do about it.  Not a busybody like you.

(October 1, 2015 at 10:42 pm)Buzz Wrote: The development of an infant within one's womb reveals the reality of the said infant developing into a fully formed human being. The future does contain people; its not an assumption, but a fact.

(October 1, 2015 at 7:46 pm)Esquilax Wrote: People have rights. No brain, no mind, no person, no problem. As a society we have never been in the business of giving rights to the concepts of people in future, except in the broad sense that we assume that the future will contain people.

What is a person? A person is simply an individual. All sentient lifeforms are individuals.

Who cares if the unborn don't have fully functional brains? They will develop their brains, and the other functions, in time. Fetuses are still fundamentally human: they have the human nature, appearance, etc. They therefore should be treated as such.

It does not matter if the fetus lacks the capacity to think (brain). We know in certainty that it has the human nature, and that it will fully develop in a matter of months, so we might as well treat it as human.



  http://www.abortionfacts.com/facts/2 Every human being is a person.

"Age, size, IQ, or stage of development are simply differences in degree, not in kind."

"If personhood is determined by one's current capacities, then someone who is unconscious or could be killed because he is not demonstrating superior intellect and skills. “But give the man time and he'll be able to function as a person.” Give the baby time and so will she."

"Age, size, IQ, or stage of development are simply differences in degree, not in kind. Our kind is humanity. We are people—human beings. We possess certain skills to differing degrees at different stages of development. When we reach maturation, there are many different degrees of skills and levels of IQ. But none of these make some people better or more human than others. None make some qualified to live and others unqualified."


Since the fetus is a human being, it naturally has access to human rights, despite its facilitates not being fully developed.

Sure. I don't agree with this, but who cares, let's say you're right.


A fetus, like every person, does not have the right to a woman's body without her consent.

(October 1, 2015 at 3:32 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: delete

Why are you deleting comments after people have already responded to them? That seems very dishonest to me.

Hmm... Buzz....bee icon...Catholic... Hi, Randy!

Lol he even used copy pasta