TOP 10 REASONS Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work:

10)  You inevitably lose the trail whenever he walks on water.

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9) Because he's a paranoid homophobe and he tells you to "Keep your dirty heathen eyes to yourself, queer."

(October 4, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:

(October 4, 2015 at 2:02 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: With all your talking you still can account for uniformity.

Yes. I can, and I just did (again), and thank you for finally admitting it.

Quote:Also having subjective morals means that there are no absolute right and wrongs and your opinion on what God does are just your opinons but have no real foundation. Also God allows but does not cause evil. Still He will judge evil and has the right to since by Him you are only able to have a true foundation of right and wrong.

If Gaud is personally and solely responsible for creating a system like the Universe, then he is personally and solely responsible for everything that happens within that Universe as well as all possibilities that exist within it. All the good, all the bad, all the joy, all the suffering, it's ALL on him. If evil was introduced to the system by something other than Gaud, the thing that introduced evil was still introduced into the system by Gaud. If he really were the causeless cause, then everything would trace back to being his fault. Everything. This is an inescapable truth of your premise, and it is the reason Gaud cannot be the Creator of our Universe and also all-good, all-loving, and all-powerful because he deliberately created a system with full prior knowledge of how badly it would go for its occupants, and he still created the system anyway for purely selfish reasons. Jehovah is a monster worse than 1,000 boogey men, and I used to hunt boogey men. Those fuckers are nasty.

Quote:You can make up stories about what my life would have been had I meet come aginst some other religion but God is soverign and led me into truth. No matter what it is by the grace of God that I know who he is.

"Oh, but that didn't happen, so it couldn't have happened."


Yeah, it could have. If you had been born in a Muslim country and had the same experience, the next book you stuck your nose in would have been the Quran, and you would have converted to Islam (if by some strange twist you hadn't already by whatever age you were when this happened to you). Allah is said to have the exact two qualities you mentioned. You probably would have been safe from Mormonism, but the Jehovah's witnesses could have snatched you up just as easily. There are plenty of variants of your Gaud, and there are plenty of other gods said to have similar qualities. Even though the stories and characters are all different, nobody's religion is truly unique.

Earlier you said you don't know why things are uniform so why can you do it now?

God doesn't make you sin. You can't blame your faults on Him. If I tell my child not to do a thing, and I make him aware of the consequences, if he does it it is his fault for disobeying me.  It would be evil to allow someone to disobey and not give them a warning but that isn't what God does. He tells us explicitly through His word and implicitly through the systems of the earth as well as our conscious. If we willfully do it then it is us who choose evil but we can not claim ignorance. Also since you don't know all things you don't know how much evil God has stopped.

Again don't have a foundation for what evil is because you think morals are subjective. What you said was evil when you claimed Christianity you don't claim now. So your idea of an evil God is just your opinion but it isn't based on any true foundation.

You have no proof this is just conjecture. I also said that God lead me to the bible because that is His word. What I have told you is reality and it will not change the truth. I don't put my faith in a religion I put my faith in God. He is my foundation.

(October 4, 2015 at 2:04 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(October 2, 2015 at 11:09 am)Rekeisha Wrote: where did you get that idea from?

History.  Which has nothing to do with your fucking bible.

could you bring some examples

(October 4, 2015 at 7:06 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I'm still trying to even figure out what, exactly, "you can't account for uniformity" even means.

Billions of scientific experiments that show the laws of physics are constant, that biochemistry works the same way every time, and that we can depend on these laws to create computers, airplanes, satellites, cell phones, etc... but hey, what I can't account for is magic. You're proposing magic. And it's ... just sad.

You can only do science if there is uniformity. So why is there uniformity?

(October 2, 2015 at 1:26 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: As I have said before I met God before I could read the bible. God revealed to me that He is God.

Bollocks!

Awww religious psychosis, nothing quite like it eh?

(October 5, 2015 at 11:18 am)Rekeisha Wrote: God doesn't make you sin. 

But, according to you (and your God) that we're born with a dirty, wicked, disgustingly sinful nature fresh from the womb. 
So, there's that to consider.

It's because 'we' 'sinned' against 'Him' because he put 'Satan' disguised as a 'talking snake' to tempt us because he's a non-existent 'T.W.A.T'.

(October 5, 2015 at 11:21 am)Rekeisha Wrote:

(October 4, 2015 at 7:06 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I'm still trying to even figure out what, exactly, "you can't account for uniformity" even means.

Billions of scientific experiments that show the laws of physics are constant, that biochemistry works the same way every time, and that we can depend on these laws to create computers, airplanes, satellites, cell phones, etc... but hey, what I can't account for is magic. You're proposing magic. And it's ... just sad.

You can only do science if there is uniformity. So why is there uniformity?

You mean why are there laws of physics? 

Well because of a magic wizard who made the laws of physics, of course.