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What the bible says Hell is like
#51
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
I care what hell is like about as much as I care what Mordor is like.

Less, even.
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#52
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
(October 8, 2015 at 2:10 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I care what hell is like about as much as I care what Mordor is like.

Less, even.

Well you should care about how Eru Ilúvatar will allow Melkor Morigoth to drag you to the dungeons of Angband for your disobedience!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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#53
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
(October 8, 2015 at 2:12 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Well you should care about how Eru Ilúvatar will allow Melkor Morigoth to drag you to the dungeons of Angband for your disobedience!

I have written better than that.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#54
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
(October 8, 2015 at 2:14 am)Kitan Wrote:
(October 8, 2015 at 2:12 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Well you should care about how Eru Ilúvatar will allow Melkor Morigoth to drag you to the dungeons of Angband for your disobedience!

I have written better than that.

Blasphemer!

How dare you question the works of the Prophet Tolkien!!!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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#55
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
(October 8, 2015 at 2:15 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
(October 8, 2015 at 2:14 am)Kitan Wrote: I have written better than that.

Blasphemer!

How dare you question the works of the Prophet Tolkien!!!

I DARE.

Get over it.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#56
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
You won't be laughing when the Elves and the Valar return in glory, at the end of the Fourth Age, to wipe out all those who were not taken to the Undying Lands!

or, if you prefer...

"When Hank kicks the shit out of you I'll be there, counting my money and laughing. I'll kiss Hank's ass for you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater." (Source: http://www.jhuger.com/kissing-hanks-ass )
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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#57
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
(October 8, 2015 at 2:21 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: You won't be laughing when the Elves and the Valar return in glory, at the end of the Fourth Age, to wipe out all those who were not taken to the Undying Lands!

or, if you prefer...

"When Hank kicks the shit out of you I'll be there, counting my money and laughing. I'll kiss Hank's ass for you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater." (Source: http://www.jhuger.com/kissing-hanks-ass )

Bitch, please.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#58
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
(October 8, 2015 at 1:58 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
(October 8, 2015 at 1:51 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: YOU DONT HAVE TO SUBMIT!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes. You do. You must change almost everything about yourself. I know you think that it is simply acceptance of the gift which allows the "holy spirit" to work through you and change you from within, but the result is the same. You must accept a set of rules about what is/isn't acceptable behavior (sin), and dedicate yourself to service to the master. 

The word for that is "submission", whether you like it or not.

Why can God not simply let me into heaven as I am, an honest, decent person who simply does not think the evidence provided by the Hebrew scripture-writers is good evidence, given that it conflicts in so many astoundingly-ignorant ways with the world I observe around me? (I saw your "from a rock" comment, and as a former evolutionary biologist, it made me nearly snort tea through my nose.) Why can God not simply let me die like all the other mammals, if I have failed to meet the standards required for heaven?

When you offer me a "free" gift, and the price of not accepting that gift is torture, it is not a free gift. It is a threat. It is a forcible compulsion. It is unworthy of any being that could ever deserve to be worshiped. 

On the other hand, it makes total sense if you're a Broze Age tribal warrior priest who thinks that genocide against the tribe in the next valley is okay, that enslaving the survivors is okay, and that women are the property of men. That is not God. That is the selfishness of humans, and I reject all concepts that derive from that basis because I am a moral person.

I'll message you later. I have homework.

(October 8, 2015 at 1:58 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:
(October 8, 2015 at 1:56 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: [...] You don't have to believe me you can take what i'm saying and spit it back in my face you want[...]

Thank you - that's all I needed to know. Bye-bye.

Tongue

good bye Smile God bless u
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#59
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
(October 8, 2015 at 1:08 am)Jenny A Wrote:
(October 8, 2015 at 12:57 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: God does not threaten us with hell, He saves us from it!
Hell is there because we sinned. It has to do with justice.

Did god create hell? Or was it created by abstract justice? And is there any crime for which you think a human court would sentence a man to eternal hellfire?

Yes
No
No
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#60
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
(October 8, 2015 at 3:36 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:
(October 8, 2015 at 1:08 am)Jenny A Wrote: Did god create hell?  Or was it created by abstract justice?  And is there any crime for which you think a human court would sentence a man to eternal hellfire?

Yes
No
No

So it's your claim that God saves us from that which he created, yes?

Your God is a sociopathic cunt, or rather he would be if he weren't just a literary device.
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