(October 8, 2015 at 11:29 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:

(October 8, 2015 at 11:22 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: No, this would be one of literally hundreds of reasons.

Now, with this new found knowledge of the book you live your entire life by, doesn't it make you question it?  At all?

ok just wondering
and no
I feel bad for anyone who needs solid evidence for everything in their lives.
like double checking a chair before sitting on it
or making sure their wife didn't poison their coffee
faith is exercised daily by everyone
I just choose to place my faith in Jesus
and people will crucify me for it I honestly jump for joy when people hate me for it because great is my reward in heaven

Great. Now you're going to equivocate "faith". If you don't understand the difference between reasonable belief (e.g., an apparently undamaged chair will hold my weight if I sit on it) and unreasonable belief (e.g., these ancient stories are true because they say so), then you are too stupid to bother trying to have a conversation with.

But you do understand the difference, don't you, troll?

The Bible is the claim, not the evidence for the claim.

Circular reasoning is circular.

(October 8, 2015 at 11:30 am)Crossless1 Wrote:

(October 8, 2015 at 11:24 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: the guy told me to f off
im not self-righteous. Im  a wicked sinner who deserves hell but was saved by grace through Jesus Christ,
atheists are so angry over a message of love

Reading comprehension is a good thing. Try it. I didn't tell you to fuck off because I was offended. I told you to fuck off because you seem to think that tossing out Bible verses to a bunch of atheists constitutes a conversation. Your mere assertion that any of it is true is insufficient. Your word on the subject (I really, really believe it) is worse than useless. If you want anyone here to believe that this collection of ancient writings is the "eternal word" of Yahweh, you first have to persuade us that Yahweh is more than a character in a book.

What you believe is irrelevant.

the sun and moon will be darkened and stars won't give its light and a massive earthquake will rock the world and then sign of the Son of Man will come in the clouds. everyone will see Him and some will mourn and others will rejoice because they will forever be with the Lord.

that is the sign that will prove his deity

It won't happen.

(October 8, 2015 at 11:35 am)Crossless1 Wrote:

(October 8, 2015 at 11:29 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: ok just wondering
and no
I feel bad for anyone who needs solid evidence for everything in their lives.
like double checking a chair before sitting on it
or making sure their wife didn't poison their coffee
faith is exercised daily by everyone
I just choose to place my faith in Jesus
and people will crucify me for it I honestly jump for joy when people hate me for it because great is my reward in heaven

Great. Now you're going to equivocate "faith". If you don't understand the difference between reasonable belief (e.g., an apparently undamaged chair will hold my weight if I sit on it) and unreasonable belief (e.g., these ancient stories are true because they say so), then you are too stupid to bother trying to have a conversation with.

But you do understand the difference, don't you, troll?

The Bible is the claim, not the evidence for the claim.

you sure your parents are actually your parents?

(October 8, 2015 at 11:40 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:

(October 8, 2015 at 11:30 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Reading comprehension is a good thing. Try it. I didn't tell you to fuck off because I was offended. I told you to fuck off because you seem to think that tossing out Bible verses to a bunch of atheists constitutes a conversation. Your mere assertion that any of it is true is insufficient. Your word on the subject (I really, really believe it) is worse than useless. If you want anyone here to believe that this collection of ancient writings is the "eternal word" of Yahweh, you first have to persuade us that Yahweh is more than a character in a book.

What you believe is irrelevant.

the sun and moon will be darkened and stars won't give its light and a massive earthquake will rock the world and then sign of the Son of Man will come in the clouds. everyone will see Him and some will mourn and others will rejoice because they will forever be with the Lord.

that is the sign that will prove his deity

Oh dear, did you miss the Rapture?  The eBible fellowship predicted it would happen YESTERDAY!!!  So sorry.  But since there have been hundreds of such predictions, cheer up.  Another prediction will surely pop up in a week or two.

(October 8, 2015 at 11:41 am)Evie Wrote: It won't happen.

yea it will

(October 8, 2015 at 11:40 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:

(October 8, 2015 at 11:30 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Reading comprehension is a good thing. Try it. I didn't tell you to fuck off because I was offended. I told you to fuck off because you seem to think that tossing out Bible verses to a bunch of atheists constitutes a conversation. Your mere assertion that any of it is true is insufficient. Your word on the subject (I really, really believe it) is worse than useless. If you want anyone here to believe that this collection of ancient writings is the "eternal word" of Yahweh, you first have to persuade us that Yahweh is more than a character in a book.

What you believe is irrelevant.

the sun and moon will be darkened and stars won't give its light and a massive earthquake will rock the world and then sign of the Son of Man will come in the clouds. everyone will see Him and some will mourn and others will rejoice because they will forever be with the Lord.

that is the sign that will prove his deity

What is  it with you people and your obsession with the end of the world?

Your life must be pretty fucking empty.

(October 8, 2015 at 11:40 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:

(October 8, 2015 at 11:30 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Reading comprehension is a good thing. Try it. I didn't tell you to fuck off because I was offended. I told you to fuck off because you seem to think that tossing out Bible verses to a bunch of atheists constitutes a conversation. Your mere assertion that any of it is true is insufficient. Your word on the subject (I really, really believe it) is worse than useless. If you want anyone here to believe that this collection of ancient writings is the "eternal word" of Yahweh, you first have to persuade us that Yahweh is more than a character in a book.

What you believe is irrelevant.

the sun and moon will be darkened and stars won't give its light and a massive earthquake will rock the world and then sign of the Son of Man will come in the clouds. everyone will see Him and some will mourn and others will rejoice because they will forever be with the Lord.

that is the sign that will prove his deity

As I said, what you believe to be true is irrelevant.

However, it's interesting that you're hanging your hat on those signs. What you seem to be acknowledging -- perhaps unintentionally -- is that until these signs come to pass, it's reasonable not to believe the story.

Good to know.

(October 8, 2015 at 11:44 am)drfuzzy Wrote:

(October 8, 2015 at 11:40 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: the sun and moon will be darkened and stars won't give its light and a massive earthquake will rock the world and then sign of the Son of Man will come in the clouds. everyone will see Him and some will mourn and others will rejoice because they will forever be with the Lord.

that is the sign that will prove his deity

Oh dear, did you miss the Rapture?  The eBible fellowship predicted it would happen YESTERDAY!!!  So sorry.  But since there have been hundreds of such predictions, cheer up.  Another prediction will surely pop up in a week or two.

those are the Christians who don't read their bibles. the rapture comes after the tribulation and not before. im sure that sentence means squat to you lol

beware of Christians who say they are but really are fake

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(October 8, 2015 at 11:45 am)Crossless1 Wrote:

(October 8, 2015 at 11:40 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: the sun and moon will be darkened and stars won't give its light and a massive earthquake will rock the world and then sign of the Son of Man will come in the clouds. everyone will see Him and some will mourn and others will rejoice because they will forever be with the Lord.

that is the sign that will prove his deity

As I said, what you believe to be true is irrelevant.

However, it's interesting that you're hanging your hat on those signs. What you seem to be acknowledging -- perhaps unintentionally -- is that until these signs come to pass, it's reasonable not to believe the story.

Good to know.

that sign is not for my belief I already believe without it. You were asking to prove it and I said that because God will come and everyone will see Him eventually.