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October 12, 2015 at 12:30 pm
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(October 12, 2015 at 12:16 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 12:12 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: yes just like atheists consider everyone who believes in God as suffering from delusional disorder 
Well, sort of. But dis-associative identity disorder has been extensively studied and is listed as an actual disorder by the American Psychiatric Association. Holding onto dogmas is not considered a disorder. Yet. 
its still nothing more than a subjective opinion and not scientifically proven to be true just like all subjective theories
(October 12, 2015 at 12:19 pm)Losty Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 12:14 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: or i could be right
Sure, but I have no reason to believe that you are.
i know
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October 12, 2015 at 12:47 pm
Fucking hell Jenny if I thought that one voice that I heard one time for a few seconds was God talking to me I'd be seriously psychotic.
Talking to God is one thing, thinking God talks to you is pretty damn fucked up.
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October 12, 2015 at 1:13 pm
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(October 12, 2015 at 12:22 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 12:14 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: communication with God and witnessing unnatural physical phenomenon
or i could be right
Specifics, please.
i describe it in my welcome thread http://atheistforums.org/thread-37161.html
communication involves mostly feeling a strong insistent sudden inspiration to do/say something online or offline and i follow the direction and the perfect words come to me that i did not have , me asking for clarification and understanding and getting that clarification and understanding . sometimes what comes into my mind is like a mental visual parable for example one time i had this image in my mind of bowls that humanity constantly creates for God and how they are similar to bowls that children create and how children think the bowls are so important and are needed by the parents but are really unnecessary . mental visuals that are symbolic and also just understanding of things that i was previously uncertain about .
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(October 12, 2015 at 12:47 pm)Evie Wrote: Fucking hell Jenny if I thought that one voice that I heard one time for a few seconds was God talking to me I'd be seriously psychotic.
or right now you would be having a real relationship with God if you were not so stubbornly against the possibility that God existed .
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October 12, 2015 at 1:16 pm
Rather than admitting to my friends I let Creepy Lewis fuck me over the weekend, I think I will tell them breathlessly the god Apollo did it, and it was REALLY amazing !!!
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October 12, 2015 at 1:38 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 1:13 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: or right now you would be having a real relationship with God if you were not so stubbornly against the possibility that God existed .
I was already experiencing mental health problems at the time. If I had told people it was God talking to me I would have been sent straight back to the acute mental health ward.
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October 12, 2015 at 1:58 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 1:38 pm)Evie Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 1:13 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: or right now you would be having a real relationship with God if you were not so stubbornly against the possibility that God existed .
I was already experiencing mental health problems at the time. If I had told people it was God talking to me I would have been sent straight back to the acute mental health ward.
i dont trust the opinions of athiest psychiatrists to diagnose my experiences with God that they obviously wouldnt understand . thats like going to a doctor that has an incomplete education regarding your illness their diagnosis is going to be wrong . but if this is something that happened to you a lot there might be something physically wrong with you such as a tumor i was under the impression it just happened once .
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 12, 2015 at 2:14 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 1:58 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 1:38 pm)Evie Wrote: I was already experiencing mental health problems at the time. If I had told people it was God talking to me I would have been sent straight back to the acute mental health ward.
i dont trust the opinions of athiest psychiatrists to diagnose my experiences with God that they obviously wouldnt understand . thats like going to a doctor that has an incomplete education regarding your illness their diagnosis is going to be wrong . but if this is something that happened to you a lot there might be something physically wrong with you such as a tumor i was under the impression it just happened once .
jenny1972, are you sure that you haven't visited us before? 
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October 12, 2015 at 2:29 pm
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(October 12, 2015 at 1:38 pm)Evie Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 1:13 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: or right now you would be having a real relationship with God if you were not so stubbornly against the possibility that God existed .
I was already experiencing mental health problems at the time. If I had told people it was God talking to me I would have been sent straight back to the acute mental health ward.
did you even bother getting any physical tests done by a real doctor such as a brain scan to determine that you did not have a brain tumor or other physical illness causing this or did you just automatically assume you were crazy and make a straight beeline to a psychiatrist ?
(October 12, 2015 at 2:14 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 1:58 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: i dont trust the opinions of athiest psychiatrists to diagnose my experiences with God that they obviously wouldnt understand . thats like going to a doctor that has an incomplete education regarding your illness their diagnosis is going to be wrong . but if this is something that happened to you a lot there might be something physically wrong with you such as a tumor i was under the impression it just happened once .
jenny1972, are you sure that you haven't visited us before?
i came to this website for the first time last night why ?
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October 12, 2015 at 2:32 pm
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(October 12, 2015 at 2:29 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 1:38 pm)Evie Wrote: I was already experiencing mental health problems at the time. If I had told people it was God talking to me I would have been sent straight back to the acute mental health ward.
did you even bother getting any physical tests done by a real doctor such as a brain scan to determine that you did not have a brain tumor or other physical illness causing this or did you just automatically assume you were crazy and make a straight beeline to a psychiatrist ?
(October 12, 2015 at 2:14 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: jenny1972, are you sure that you haven't visited us before?
i came to this website for the first time last night why ?
You read like someone else who was on here . . . but it's hard to tell from the writing style. Just wonderin'.
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 12, 2015 at 2:45 pm
I have had a brain scan... no physical symptoms...
No I've heard voices twice and the other time I don't even remember the details of anymore and it was milder.
I've been on mental health wards before for other reasons but that would have been more than enough to admit to a ward.
And no it wasn't atheist doctors saying that because a bunch of them were religious and as far as I know my Psych was a Christian too. To be a fucking professional you have to keep your beliefs separate from fucking medicine and health.
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