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Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)
RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
I guess 'it' sounds too impersonal? Smile
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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
In college, I once argued that, since maleness is something that evolved later in the development of genetically-reproducing life, it stands to reason that a Creator, if one exists, cannot be male. To me, the reasonable pronoun to assign to the god-concept would be the female pronoun, if any. Life began as all-female; the development of sexual reproduction, and thus the possibility of "maleness", was not a thing for the first billion years of life on earth. Some have even posited that while the mechanical structures for sexual reproduction appeared about 3 billion years ago, it may have been less than one billion years ago that actual sexual reproduction began.

Either way, God is not a dude.

Edit to Add: By "mechanical structures", I don't mean penises, but the biochemical basis for DNA that is "male" and "female", set up for genetic recombination based on pairing.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
To be pedantic I guess technically god would be genderless if it existed.
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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(September 27, 2015 at 9:31 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(September 27, 2015 at 9:11 am)TubbyTubby Wrote: Lit.
I lost count of the number of times folk come on here and claim that their personal god exists.
Not believing in beliefs is not a belief. Are you shitting me.


You are not paying attention to what is written here by atheists.
Most of them make claims which has really nothing to do with not believing in beliefs.
You never thought about it Tub, did you?  Lightbulb

I realize this thread is now up to page 69 and I'm late to the party but I felt the need to reply to this anyway because I'm not sure if anyone did.

It doesn't matter what is written here by atheists, one atheist on here might be in favour of guns being outlawed, that doesn't make atheism a belief about guns.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(October 16, 2015 at 11:11 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Wow. For a few pages there this thread was beginning to look like a civilized discussion... Then, of course Rico Suave came back online, having finished milking his sacred cow, or whatever and it's right back to "Hindus say the stupidest sh*t".

Sigh...

When my son was really little if you asked him "como te llamas?" He would always answer "Rico Suave!"
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(October 18, 2015 at 3:07 am)Losty Wrote: When my son was really little if you asked him "como te llamas?" He would always answer "Rico Suave!"
I had to take that to Google translate. I coulda sworn that meant, "Who ate my llamas?"
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"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(October 17, 2015 at 10:12 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:
(October 17, 2015 at 9:11 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Let's not forget, that she claims, that people turn to atheism, not because they find religious doctrines illogical and obnoxious - but because god doesn't speak to them...

She get pissy at us, for not believing in god and then she says, that only god can give us evidence. Why isn't she angry with god, then? There seems to be literally NOTHING we can do to find the god hypothesis convincing - unless he decides to start whispering to each and every one of us - as he allegedly does with her.

your assuming that everyone becomes atheist for the same reason , because they dont believe in the Bible and thats it . well if they had a relationship with God regardless of what they thought about the Bible or how illogical and obnoxious the religious doctrines were , they would still believe in God . and therefore would not become an atheist.

And im not getting upset what makes you think im getting upset with you for being an atheist ive said over and over again you need proof to believe i know you dont have it yet and as long as you dont close the door completely to the possibility of God youll get that proof eventually its worth the wait .
 I did not "become an atheist". I have never believed and never seen a reason to start. But then over in the UK religions are dying. The church I was christened in (my mums idea apparently) is now a pub and that is a far better use for it as far as I'm concerned.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(October 17, 2015 at 11:12 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: In college, I once argued that, since maleness is something that evolved later in the development of genetically-reproducing life, it stands to reason that a Creator, if one exists, cannot be male. To me, the reasonable pronoun to assign to the god-concept would be the female pronoun, if any. Life began as all-female; the development of sexual reproduction, and thus the possibility of "maleness", was not a thing for the first billion years of life on earth. Some have even posited that while the mechanical structures for sexual reproduction appeared about 3 billion years ago, it may have been less than one billion years ago that actual sexual reproduction began.

Either way, God is not a dude.

Edit to Add: By "mechanical structures", I don't mean penises, but the biochemical basis for DNA that is "male" and "female", set up for genetic recombination based on pairing.

But in early jewish tradition he had a wife.
Quote:Some biblical scholars believe that Asherah at one time was worshiped as the consort of Yahweh, the national God of Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(October 18, 2015 at 2:59 am)paulpablo Wrote:
(September 27, 2015 at 9:31 am)Little Rik Wrote: You are not paying attention to what is written here by atheists.
Most of them make claims which has really nothing to do with not believing in beliefs.
You never thought about it Tub, did you?  Lightbulb

I realize this thread is now up to page 69 and I'm late to the party but I felt the need to reply to this anyway because I'm not sure if anyone did.

It doesn't matter what is written here by atheists, one atheist on here might be in favour of guns being outlawed, that doesn't make atheism a belief about guns.


The problem Pablo is that is not one or two or few.
It is most of them.
Just scroll the forum and see how many times atheists carry on with the same old mantras.
You will be surprised.
Not only that but even if you would deal with a lonely wolf you would be wrong anyway.
Why?
Because by not doing anything to correct or take the distance from the lonely wolf you would allow the atheist image to be polluted.  Smile
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