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(October 19, 2015 at 11:03 am)JBrentonK Wrote: The title of this thread may sound weird, but that's my intention with this thread. I am going to ask you peeps that question. So without further ado, give me proof of your claim that you are an atheist, proof that you can believe in no God, proof that you are not just basing your opinion on dust, or dirt, or soot. Proof that you are an atheist too.... Because I don't believe that your "atheism" was not created by human eyes, human ears, human stupidity.... I believe, to the contrary, that your atheism was created around the 1900's, that it's a new upstart to the world of "fiction"; that you have never been more than a disbeliever.....
I believe that you do not believe in God, can not be contributive, cannot base your beliefs on your acts and can not act positively as a result. You cannot give to charity (or at least I wouldn't want you to), you cannot base your beliefs on the faith in your beliefs which beg for your positive contribution to the world. The world begs you for love. Give it or else!
I also believe that you are not an atheist, however, and this thread will prove weather I am right or wrong. Are you an atheist? Or are you just coming to that conclusion due to some sorting out of the theories? Well, the good news is, if I'm right, and there is no proof for atheism (and all of it's bad fundamentalisms), you can still be a valuable part of your beliefs. All you'd have to do is act them, and then again, that is all you'd be forced to do. To start being contributive. To start a conversation and contribute to it's positive gain, to converse with friends or neighbors and be an actual, productive citizen during the process....
So, are you an atheist, or do you just believe that you are?
Proof that I'm an atheist? My deeds. I don't go to church. I don't speak reverently towards any gods. No one is going to catch me praying to a god when I think I'm alone. Not to mention that I live in a christian dominated community, and there's no drawback to being a christian in my day-to-day life, yet I lead a nonreligious life.
The idea that atheists can't be contributive is a testable claim, and it's been proven that some people claim to be atheists and yet are good people, and some people claim to be christian and are bad people. Bill Gates gives to charity while the WBC protests funerals.
Atheism has lasted as long as theism. All it takes is one guy to say he thinks the mountain spits fire because there's a fire spirit living there, and a second guy saying he doesn't believe that. One guy believes in fire spirits, and the other doesn't.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
(October 20, 2015 at 9:11 am)Mr Greene Wrote: So the OP believes that we believe, that we do not believe in pretending to believe things that we know are false, whilst actually pretending to believe in pretending to believe in things that we know are false... and on this basis does not want us to donate to charity or have any positive impact on the world, whilst his own beliefs dictate that he wants the world to be destroyed?
And he wants proof of this?
I can't believe I wasted the time figuring out what the OP actually wrote...
The OP is so self-absorbed I'm kinda surprised he hasn't created his own black hole.
(October 20, 2015 at 9:49 am)Alex K Wrote: That's odd, because he seems to be dense enough...
Maybe that's the negative energy density we've been looking for. Quick! Grab him! Service as the core of an Alcubierre drive will be a greater one than so far thus provided.
(October 19, 2015 at 11:55 am)JBrentonK Wrote: robvalue, every action in your life that you take is inspired by your faith in the world. It only follows that a belief in God as part of your actions removes you from all blindness about the positive outcome of your actions! If you are to have a God, you are to have one hell of a God!!! The atheists in this thread are too blind to that fact, and I might mention that it is an obvious fact! They each of them do not have that positive value that comes with the faith in God as a part of life. So therefore, if they believed in God, they would get a maximum of greatness for everything they do! If you believe in God, you can act it out in faith, and play a much larger role in the world. It only comes down to proving your belief though.... If you don't prove that you are an atheist, you can't act out your beliefs with the utmost of faith! You need to believe in God first, and then you can prove that you are something else though.... Anything you want!
That doesn't make any sense.
If you embrace God, you can "act" God. If you don't embrace God, you are like the atheists of this forum that demand you to prove god based on "evidence." It is evidence of God when you act him out in your life, and therefore you are open to an infinite possibility. The possibility of christianity. You now can speak, act, do, things which you never thought possible, because you are acting out God in your life. When you say something, it might be "God" saying it, because you are also God. If you however remove God from being capable of showing himself, like all atheists do sadly, you can no longer even experience God. And when you can experience God, all of your experience is divine.
Being able to act in faith to God is something atheists of this site obviously don't want you to know about. For no reason other than pure evil. You can research this yourself, but you will only find that acting in faith to God is proof that God exists.
The title of this thread may sound weird, but that's my intention with this thread. I am going to ask you peeps that question. So without further ado, give me proof of your claim that you are an atheist, proof that you can believe in no God, proof that you are not just basing your opinion on dust, or dirt, or soot. Proof that you are an atheist too.... Because I don't believe that your "atheism" was not created by human eyes, human ears, human stupidity.... I believe, to the contrary, that your atheism was created around the 1900's, that it's a new upstart to the world of "fiction"; that you have never been more than a disbeliever.....
I believe that you do not believe in God, can not be contributive, cannot base your beliefs on your acts and can not act positively as a result. You cannot give to charity (or at least I wouldn't want you to), you cannot base your beliefs on the faith in your beliefs which beg for your positive contribution to the world. The world begs you for love. Give it or else!
I also believe that you are not an atheist, however, and this thread will prove weather I am right or wrong. Are you an atheist? Or are you just coming to that conclusion due to some sorting out of the theories? Well, the good news is, if I'm right, and there is no proof for atheism (and all of it's bad fundamentalisms), you can still be a valuable part of your beliefs. All you'd have to do is act them, and then again, that is all you'd be forced to do. To start being contributive. To start a conversation and contribute to it's positive gain, to converse with friends or neighbors and be an actual, productive citizen during the process....
So, are you an atheist, or do you just believe that you are?
You don't need evidence to be a atheist, but most atheists are atheists because they read the fucking bible.
(October 19, 2015 at 11:03 am)JBrentonK Wrote: The title of this thread may sound weird, but that's my intention with this thread. I am going to ask you peeps that question. So without further ado, give me proof of your claim that you are an atheist, proof that you can believe in no God, proof that you are not just basing your opinion on dust, or dirt, or soot. Proof that you are an atheist too.... Because I don't believe that your "atheism" was not created by human eyes, human ears, human stupidity.... I believe, to the contrary, that your atheism was created around the 1900's, that it's a new upstart to the world of "fiction"; that you have never been more than a disbeliever.....
I believe that you do not believe in God, can not be contributive, cannot base your beliefs on your acts and can not act positively as a result. You cannot give to charity (or at least I wouldn't want you to), you cannot base your beliefs on the faith in your beliefs which beg for your positive contribution to the world. The world begs you for love. Give it or else!
I also believe that you are not an atheist, however, and this thread will prove weather I am right or wrong. Are you an atheist? Or are you just coming to that conclusion due to some sorting out of the theories? Well, the good news is, if I'm right, and there is no proof for atheism (and all of it's bad fundamentalisms), you can still be a valuable part of your beliefs. All you'd have to do is act them, and then again, that is all you'd be forced to do. To start being contributive. To start a conversation and contribute to it's positive gain, to converse with friends or neighbors and be an actual, productive citizen during the process....
So, are you an atheist, or do you just believe that you are?
Proof that I'm an atheist? My deeds. I don't go to church. I don't speak reverently towards any gods. No one is going to catch me praying to a god when I think I'm alone. Not to mention that I live in a christian dominated community, and there's no drawback to being a christian in my day-to-day life, yet I lead a nonreligious life.
The idea that atheists can't be contributive is a testable claim, and it's been proven that some people claim to be atheists and yet are good people, and some people claim to be christian and are bad people. Bill Gates gives to charity while the WBC protests funerals.
Atheism has lasted as long as theism. All it takes is one guy to say he thinks the mountain spits fire because there's a fire spirit living there, and a second guy saying he doesn't believe that. One guy believes in fire spirits, and the other doesn't.
I was only asking if atheism is a new thing, created in the 1900's or so. I believe it is, and if we discover it was, then atheists cannot claim anything about being irreligious. In fact they will only be able to claim that they are directly acting out against God, for purely evil or ill-will'd intentions.
(October 20, 2015 at 9:19 am)Chad32 Wrote: Proof that I'm an atheist? My deeds. I don't go to church. I don't speak reverently towards any gods. No one is going to catch me praying to a god when I think I'm alone. Not to mention that I live in a christian dominated community, and there's no drawback to being a christian in my day-to-day life, yet I lead a nonreligious life.
The idea that atheists can't be contributive is a testable claim, and it's been proven that some people claim to be atheists and yet are good people, and some people claim to be christian and are bad people. Bill Gates gives to charity while the WBC protests funerals.
Atheism has lasted as long as theism. All it takes is one guy to say he thinks the mountain spits fire because there's a fire spirit living there, and a second guy saying he doesn't believe that. One guy believes in fire spirits, and the other doesn't.
I was only asking if atheism is a new thing, created in the 1900's or so. I believe it is, and if we discover it was, then atheists cannot claim anything about being irreligious. In fact they will only be able to claim that they are directly acting out against God, for purely evil or ill-will'd intentions.
Atheism "created" in the 20th Century? So you know jack shit about western intellectual history. What a surprise.
Give it or else!
