(October 22, 2015 at 4:48 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: I took the liberty of numbering what I believe your points actually are:
1) You are the one making a positive claim here, you need to provide the evidence for your claim. Not believing in an afterlife is simply the default position when there is no evidence for an afterlife.

How can i make a claim?
Where is my claim?
I am not the one who state something.
You are, therefore it is you that need to justify your claim.  

Quote:2) What is this I don't even. But in general on consciousnes and the mind, it is becoming increasingly more obvious with each passing year that both are emergent properties of the incredibly complicated and complex (they are not the same thing) called the brain, and the even more incredible synaptic and electrical connections created within the brain. So in essence we do get the framework to build our personal consciousness from previous generations. It's evolution, foo'!

Dorf.
You have no idea how many times people thought that they are close to the eldorado to instead find only tons of dust.
Wake up Dorf.
Consciousness is something non physical therefore physical science will never be able to understand.    

Quote:3) Go to 1, god is as unproven as the afterlife. And no not everything is possible. For example, there is no way for your life to continue if you were to be exposed to the vacuum of space.

You mean that the carrot eat the donkey and not the other way around?
What the hell are you talking about?
The space is something physical while the consciousness is not.
You never thought about it Dorf, did you?  

Quote:4) Under gravity the big is also attracted to the small, just not to the same extent. Under the better and more accurate relativity, what is called gravity is simply a curvature in space-time created by physical objects. How this relates to consciousness you don't know, frankly.

Obviously consciousness is not affected by gravity which is a physical phenomenon.
Mine was an example to demonstrate that the small try to merge into the big.
In my case the small consciousness is attracted by the big consciousness.  

Quote:5) Look I'm just going to post a funny video here, because there is nothing in this point, nothing.

& the punch-line

A brick in the head is nothing?  

Quote:6) And the scientific method is by far the best method we have for doing this. Without it we'd be left simply with the kind of nonsense I'm replying to you, or snake-oil salesmen taking financial reward from the fears of superstitious people (otherwise known as religion)

Blah, blah, blah, so you reckon that physical science is able to discover what is outside his range of control?  

Quote:7) More accurately, science is a way of eliminating what is wrong. Very little in science outside of physical phenomena is ruled as definitely true.

Physical science can be very very good but always within the parameter of the physical world.

Quote:8) Some examples of invention: Fire, the Wheel, Painting, Jewelry, Arrow-heads, Axe-heads, Sculpting. And I haven't even left Lascaux yet. Inventions are plentiful, like grains of sand at the shore.

Very very good but what about peace of mind?
Can physical science give us peace of mind?  

Quote:9) What is invention, only discovery? Idiot.

Wrong again Dorf.
The technology that we got today you can bet that has already been discovered a million years ago in other planets in this vast universe and even those who got the idea they got it by studying natural phenomenon so nothing has ever been invented by anybody.
There is no such a thing as invention dude.  

Quote:10) Just because somebody else we've never met nor likely ever will, nor have they had an influence on us, has invented something, this doesn't preclude us coming up with that thing being equally inventive. Many things have been invented in two different places in parallel, for example writing or the calculus (Leibnitz was probably slightly ahead of Newton, but they both deserve credit) or even the theory of Evolution.

Everybody deserve credit but don't jump to quick conclusion.
Even pig excrements deserve credit because they fertilize the soil.

Quote:11) You will have to be specific. All people have blind spots where they are less open to new ideas than they should be. This doesn't validate your non-argument.

Holy Santa.
This is a very deep philosophical point which i should meditate upon.  

Quote:12) As Terry Pratchett once wrote (I'm paraphrasing): "It's all well and good having an open mind, once it's not so open that your brain will fall out". That is what you are asking us to do.

I am not asking anything.
I only point out your dogmas.

Quote:13) Atheism is not a belief, it is the acceptance of the fact that without evidence for any god non-belief is the correct position. And "the flow to run freely" what does that mean? It's almost as if you just got this post straight from the postmodernism generator.

Again, when the mind lean on something that is a belief whether you believe or not in that thing.  

(October 23, 2015 at 10:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: The space is something physical while the consciousness is not.

Do you have any evidence that this is the case or is it more dogma?

(October 23, 2015 at 11:10 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(October 23, 2015 at 10:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: The space is something physical while the consciousness is not.

Do you have any evidence that this is the case or is it more dogma?

Definitely dogma.  Rick has so much dogma he even projects it out onto us.  He is a giver.

(October 23, 2015 at 9:41 am)Little Rik Wrote: Beanie you try to think too deeply but your brain is not smart enough to understand a single thing.  
A non-belief is also a belief.  

No, it isn't. That is a self-contradictory statement, and you are a moron.

Not having a car is having a not-car.

(October 23, 2015 at 11:10 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(October 23, 2015 at 10:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: The space is something physical while the consciousness is not.

Do you have any evidence that this is the case or is it more dogma?

Count down to Little Rik posting links to stories about NDE's in 10,9,8,7......


In other words, he's got zero, zilch, a whole lotta of nada...

If atheism is a belief, please tell me what that belief is.

Yeah non-belief is a belief, a steaming turd is a puddle of piss... a triangle is a circle, nothing is something and an elephant with a broken tusk is a squid's reproductive system.

Wouldn't life be much easier if you could just bullshit about everything and make no sense like Little Rik?

(Nah not really, I prefer it when there's some actual logic to the universe.... after all it makes the strange parts more interesting. If everything was weird then nothing would be and that would be boring).

(October 23, 2015 at 9:41 am)Little Rik Wrote: [...]A non-belief is also a belief.  [...]

Right, right - just like no evidence is also evidence. Which means - the fact that you have no proof of your hinduist bullsh*t proves that you are wrong. Well done - you just royally f***ed yourself...

You didn't think about it, did you?

(October 23, 2015 at 11:10 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(October 23, 2015 at 10:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: The space is something physical while the consciousness is not.

Do you have any evidence that this is the case or is it more dogma?

What a disappointment yogini!  
I would have thought that you are a bit smarter than that.    
The space is a physical body made of matter, water, light, air and space.
You can perceive with your physical senses these factors but you can not do the same
thing with something that you can not perceive with your physical senses such as the consciousness.    
Even a demented idiot can understand this simple point.