(November 18, 2015 at 10:38 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(November 18, 2015 at 10:28 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: [...]
It is not that anyone deserves to be raped, it is not that anyone will definitely be raped because of [x], it's that what is associated with "good" will be more likely to be raped. [...]

And how do you know that? How do you know what rapists associate with "good"? I've known people who f***ed animals. Do you think they f*** only, or predominantly the prized specimens? "This goat has crooked teeth, so I'm not going to stick my d*ck in it..."(?)

DID I EVER SAY ALL RAPISTS? NO I SAID IT INCREASES THE CHANCES YOU FUCKING MORON.

IGNORED.BLOCKED.REPORTED.

You're not funny misrepresenting people. You're fucking ignorant.

(November 18, 2015 at 10:40 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote:

(November 18, 2015 at 10:22 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Wow. You seem to have quite an insight into the mind of a rapist. But have you ever heard an expression that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"?

I think they were saying a rapist is more likely to go for someone attractive, which seems like a really good reason for women to not wear mini skirts, if it will save them from getting raped, to be honest. I think it's better to be safe than sorry, to be honest.

Well I think it's better to work out and walk around naked and if someone rapes you you beat them to death...but the reality is that I can't walk around naked and I likely couldn't beat someone to death.

You should go back and read rexbecca the empress' post about how there is no evidence showing that how a person dresses affects their chance of being raped.

It is simply not the case that more attractive people get raped more often than unattractive people.

I'll say it again:
It is simply not the case that more attractive people get raped more often than unattractive people.

Do I need to say it again?

Apparently I have to repeat myself a lot. Rape rarely has to do with sex and is almost always a control thing. Provocative clothing is not correlated to instances of rape.

Should I repeat myself... again?

(November 18, 2015 at 10:41 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: DID I EVER SAY ALL RAPISTS? NO I SAID IT INCREASES THE CHANCES YOU FUCKING MORON.

And yet you never said what facts do you base that opinion on. In fact - it seems that you based it on your other opinions, like maybe your own preferences.

(November 18, 2015 at 10:41 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: IGNORED.BLOCKED.REPORTED.[...]

Uhm... Aren't "BLOCKED" and "IGNORED" the same thing?

(November 18, 2015 at 10:41 pm)heatiosrs Wrote:

(November 18, 2015 at 10:38 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: And how do you know that? How do you know what rapists associate with "good"? I've known people who f***ed animals. Do you think they f*** only, or predominantly the prized specimens? "This goat has crooked teeth, so I'm not going to stick my d*ck in it..."(?)

DID I EVER SAY ALL RAPISTS? NO I SAID IT INCREASES THE CHANCES YOU FUCKING MORON.

IGNORED.BLOCKED.REPORTED.

You're not funny misrepresenting people. You're fucking ignorant.

No. You are ignorant. Prove that dressing provocatively increases the risk of being raped. You can't because there's no evidence connecting the two.

(November 18, 2015 at 10:41 pm)Losty Wrote:

(November 18, 2015 at 10:18 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: Let's be real:

If you are less attractive, when people do not know your inside appearance[personality, etc.] they will associate you with the only thing that they do know, your outside appearance. So if you are unpleasant to look at they are going to associate you with unpleasant thoughts.

If you are attractive, when people don't know who you are on the inside, they'll associate you with the only thing they do know you by, outside appearance, so they would associate you with pleasant thoughts.

Now tell me seriously, that a rapist is just as likely to go after someone they associate with "unpleasant" than they are as "pleasant"

I hate to be dismissive, but if you deny that point you are just being unreasonable. I'm not saying that people who are seen by the general public as unattractive do not get raped, but to deny that people who are seen by the general public as attractive are not more likely to be raped, is simply not using logic.


I'm not saying anyone DESERVES to be raped, but it is HUMAN NATURE to be more interested in people who's outside appearance you associate with good thoughts.


You need to stop being an idealist, and start being a realist. If you don't know who someone is on the inside, you are going to associate them with their outside appearance, there may be a few exceptions, but it is human nature, you can train yourself to not do this, which is admirable and respectable to not judge someone based on their looks, i get it, but you are always going to have some bias based on their outside appearance, because that is all you have to go on before having an interaction, and if you can be real for a second, do you really think a Rapist wants to disregard a persons outside appearance for the sake of equality? Because that is LUUUUUUUUUUNACY.

I think what you're missing is the difference between why someone would want to have sex with another person vs why someone would rape a person.

Why do you think rapists are just horny people looking to get a hot piece of ass?

Because most rapists are people who can't get sex themselves, and if it's not some revenge-rape situation being discussed, it's safe to assume someone would be more likely to favor the person they find attractive. With that, we can deduce that a majority would find what is thought by the general public to be attractive, as attractive. Not all. But the majority. There'es nothing indicating that rapists hold, as a majority, a different view of whats attractive than the general public.

People who have consensual sex are doing so because they find each other attractive based on something other than just the outside. A rapist, for the exception of someone who stalks someone in specific, has not had a mutual connection with someone on the inside, and will favor the outside appearance, and if they favor and see them by their outside appearance, they will choose what they find pleasing rather than unpleasing.

Oh, and I'm a (intensively) trained volunteer SART (sexual assault response team) advocate. My job is to be on-call, and if a rape occurs, I go to a forensic hospital and sit with the victims while they get their rape kits and their interviews.

IOW: I know what the fuck I'm talking about.

nevermind

(November 18, 2015 at 10:45 pm)The_Empress Wrote: It is simply not the case that more attractive people get raped more often than unattractive people.

I saved you the trouble Becca

(November 18, 2015 at 10:47 pm)heatiosrs Wrote:

(November 18, 2015 at 10:41 pm)Losty Wrote: I think what you're missing is the difference between why someone would want to have sex with another person vs why someone would rape a person.

Why do you think rapists are just horny people looking to get a hot piece of ass?

Because most rapists are people who can't get sex themselves, and if it's not some revenge-rape situation being discussed, it's safe to assume someone would be more likely to favor the person they find attractive. With that, we can deduce that a majority would find what is thought by the general public to be attractive, as attractive. Not all. But the majority. There'es nothing indicating that rapists hold, as a majority, a different view of whats attractive than the general public.

People who have consensual sex are doing so because they find each other attractive based on something other than just the outside. A rapist, for the exception of someone who stalks someone in specific, has not had a mutual connection with someone on the inside, and will favor the outside appearance, and if they favor and see them by their outside appearance, they will choose what they find pleasing rather than unpleasing.

Bolding is mine. You are wrong. Rapists are not people who can't get laid.